Dirty/Illegal Tactics

anyone give their players hints and tricks of the trade that fit into this catergory..

i have been known to mention to players to step on a defenders toes while screening if they dont switch, it works best on inbounds plays becoz the defnce is still...

also when boxing out, standing on toes works very well! really takes the height and strength issue away!!!

:twisted:

[Mr Book]

Rebounding - Put your forearm on the other player just above their hip and they wont jump very well.

That said I dont teach it as if someone doesnt have 2 L's in training they run a lap. :twisted:

[fahootie]

Did anyone ever see that highlight clip from an American High school game....team down by 1 with a few seconds left in the game and inbounding from the baseline (coming back from a timeout)...inbounder slaps the ball to start the play, one of his team mates gets down on all fours and starts barking like a dog....the defensive team stops and looks at what is going on....easy pass to the hoop for 2 points. classic.

[F-Bomb]

I've heard of a variation of that called 'drop' where the 1 brings the ball down the court gets to just past half way and calls "drop" and the other four guys on the court fall to the ground...defense is stunned and the PG drives hard to the rim for the score.

[BlowJoggs]

I've never approved or used dirty tactics but am now coming to a realisation that they're here to stay.

Being short, I can contain dribble penetration very well but have trouble when someone pulls up and shoots over me. My standing reach is 6'9 so I don't create much obstruction.

I was told to lightly and abruptly 'jab' the jumpshooters sternum with my fingertips and that it would put them off.

It seems to work but I haven't tried it in a social comp so not sure if refs would let me get away with it. Refs?

[-Q-]

A sly tap to the non-shooting elbow on a jump shot can be hidden from the trail referee and is to far from the lead referee to tell.

Only in 2 man officiated games of course.

[Southern Joe]

Did anyone ever see that highlight clip from an American High school game....team down by 1 with a few seconds left in the game and inbounding from the baseline (coming back from a timeout)...inbounder slaps the ball to start the play, one of his team mates gets down on all fours and starts barking like a dog....the defensive team stops and looks at what is going on....easy pass to the hoop for 2 points. classic.

... I saw one in a girls' game where one girl was doing somersaults across the court ... everyone stopped to watch her ... same result ....e asy basket !!! :lol:

[BlowJoggs]

What about faking a sneeze during a free throw?

Do the rules say anything about burping and/or farting?

I'd imagine that'd be a good way to find yourself all alone in the key for an easy rebound.

[BlowJoggs]

A sly tap to the non-shooting elbow on a jump shot can be hidden from the trail referee and is to far from the lead referee to tell.

Only in 2 man officiated games of course.

That's just it. I've always felt deceitful when I do something 'hidden' which gives me an advantage. Yes, yes I'm Mr. Deeds.

[Stumps]

It seems to work but I haven't tried it in a social comp so not sure if refs would let me get away with it. Refs?
You can be teched for it, though you'll usually be warned first.

EDIT: Having said that, I've had a look at the rules, and maybe it would just be an ordinary shooting foul. Distracting the shooter with claps or verbalisms is techable, but I'm not sure about the touching.

[Stumps]

My personal philosophy is that I don't use any dirty tricks myself unless:

(a) my opponent has been using dirty tricks on me first; or
(b) my opponent is continually fouling me and not getting called for it.

If somebody's playing me fairly and squarely, I'll do them the courtesy of responding in kind.

Actually, come to think of it, I don't really have that many dirty tricks anyway.

[F-Bomb]

Do you count the desperation swipe after being blown past by a quicker player a dirty tactic?

...have had a few years off playing basketball and had a couple of games recently and lets just say I have been making this play my own...

[BlowJoggs]

It seems to work but I haven't tried it in a social comp so not sure if refs would let me get away with it. Refs?
You can be teched for it, though you'll usually be warned first.

EDIT: Having said that, I've had a look at the rules, and maybe it would just be an ordinary shooting foul. Distracting the shooter with claps or verbalisms is techable, but I'm not sure about the touching.

Using words to distract a shooter is techable? Goodness!
Refs, does this apply to what type of words you use. What about when the defensive players yell "Shot" when a ball goes up?

In junior comps I always stomped my feet and yelled obscenities in ethnic languages when a shot went up.

I'm still curious if you're allowed to burp and fart though.

[F-Bomb]

It seems to work but I haven't tried it in a social comp so not sure if refs would let me get away with it. Refs?
You can be teched for it, though you'll usually be warned first.

EDIT: Having said that, I've had a look at the rules, and maybe it would just be an ordinary shooting foul. Distracting the shooter with claps or verbalisms is techable, but I'm not sure about the touching.

Using words to distract a shooter is techable? Goodness!
Refs, does this apply to what type of words you use. What about when the defensive players yell "Shot" when a ball goes up?

I think Stumps may have been talking about free throws?

stomping, clapping hands at shooter, shouting at shooter... can all be given techs.. if the shot is missed!!! if tis goes in, you can get a warning, also if they miss, you dont have to get tech, you mite get a warning or nothing...

its all about if it disadvantaged the shooter

[Stumps]

Using words to distract a shooter is techable? Goodness!
I meant when you shout something every time somebody puts up a shot, in an attempt to distract them, or stamp the floor or clap your hands.

Refs, does this apply to what type of words you use. What about when the defensive players yell "Shot" when a ball goes up?
I've even seen people warned even for this, although a lot of coaches still teach it in order to "communicate to your teammates" :wink:

In junior comps I always stomped my feet and yelled obscenities in ethnic languages when a shot went up.
Your refs sucked then.

[BlowJoggs]

stomping, clapping hands at shooter, shouting at shooter... can all be given techs.. if the shot is missed!!! if tis goes in, you can get a warning, also if they miss, you dont have to get tech, you mite get a warning or nothing...

its all about if it disadvantaged the shooter

Clear







as mud. :D

[Lemon Custard]

I teched a guy for farting once during a free throw.. It wasn't what he did, but how he did it. He got sent about 5 minutes later anyway, for knocking over the drink holder thingi and yeah.. wow.. that's my story.

I got accused of a dirty tactic once too (tribunal and all :roll: ) because I told an under 12s team, who were in the grand final with 3 minutes to go, up by 3, with 1 foul and no 1 player in serious foul trouble, to foul when the opposition got on a fast break before they could shoot. It worked and they won, but I got told unfortunately. Copped a fine and all. Seriously, nothing happens here - they have to get excited over petty crappola.

Other than that - never used a dirty tactic personally. Had a couple used on me, some well hidden.. others not so subtle - like the time that chick decided my face would be a good place for her fist cause I blocked her (AND BLOCKED HER GOOD) black eye.. one week.. no stitches.. owie..

Do you count the desperation swipe after being blown past by a quicker player a dirty tactic?

...have had a few years off playing basketball and had a couple of games recently and lets just say I have been making this play my own...

someone did that to me tonite, when i crossed over i guess, they must of had a nail.. coz the top of my hand was sliced.... i didnt really notice it straight away

[Btdg]

As a slightly-too-fat baller I have to know all the dirty tricks, but I won't do anything outside the spirit of the game or that might hurt someone

-If you are guarding someone quicker on the perimeter, putting your trailing hand on their hip can slow them down, although this does get called for a foul, so I'm trying to stop that.

-When defending a fast break (ie 2-on-1 or 3-on-2) it can be effective to plant your body in front of the guy with the ball, hands up, and hold your position. They will dish the ball, but if you hold after they dish, often they will continue expecting you to follow the ball, and clean you up for an offensive foul; about as good as you can hope for in a 2-on-1

- If you are giving up athleticism, boxing out is the best trick there is. Being able to effectively box out and hold the opponent on the ground (by taking away their runup) is the most useful skill in basketball for the athletically challenged

- I have no idea how to do it properly but I've seen a lot of players tap the elbow of jump-shooters to throw them off balance - and a foul is rarely called because the ref is looking at the hands and body

- When a team-mate drives to the basket, simply stopping and holding your position in the key can stop help defence getting across. Not a screen as such, simply putting yourself in the right place at the right time and not moving

- Not a dirty tactic but fun anyway is to call "statues". Basically, when statues is called, all the players on your team have to stop and not move until the other team scores. Funny to watch, and can throw the other team off their game (drag them down to your level)

[-Q-]

What about faking a sneeze during a free throw?

Do the rules say anything about burping and/or farting?

I'd imagine that'd be a good way to find yourself all alone in the key for an easy rebound.

So long as its not blatantly obvious or belittleling (spelling?) in anyway drop em when ever you can!

No one will cut through the key after a nights heavy drinking and you're letting go SBD's everywhere!

This one's also great for Referees to get their own back. Either on the court (and all the players are blaming each other :) ) or right near the spectator that was giving you lip for something as you run past. There is no greater enjoyment then watching the parent give their child a back hand for letting one go and all the while your standing on lead with tears in your eyes!

[The Glove]

I teched a guy for farting once during a free throw.. It wasn't what he did, but how he did it. He got sent about 5 minutes later anyway, for knocking over the drink holder thingi and yeah.. wow.. that's my story.



What exactly did he do to earn a tech for floating an air biscuit?

Bend over, touch his toes and let it ripp in the middle of the key whilst the free throw shooter was shooting?

:lol:

[Meatbarn]

ON a 3 point close out fake a sack whack on the shooter. Shooter can't help but tighten up and flinch. Missed shot every time. May only work in mens competition though, haven't tried it in mixed.

[Bobby]

It seems to work but I haven't tried it in a social comp so not sure if refs would let me get away with it. Refs?
You can be teched for it, though you'll usually be warned first.

EDIT: Having said that, I've had a look at the rules, and maybe it would just be an ordinary shooting foul. Distracting the shooter with claps or verbalisms is techable, but I'm not sure about the touching.

Using words to distract a shooter is techable? Goodness!
Refs, does this apply to what type of words you use. What about when the defensive players yell "Shot" when a ball goes up?

In junior comps I always stomped my feet and yelled obscenities in ethnic languages when a shot went up.

I'm still curious if you're allowed to burp and fart though.

I'll raise one of those foul markers if I have to. In one game I've seen some kids who are friends or children of players in the social league which I am a tableside official attempt to knock down the team foul marker after I put it on the table.