What Level Coach are we all?

Me i have nothing!!!!!
I should of been a level 1 back at the start of 04, but i left melbourne like a week b4 the course... but our head coach here is a level 2 so he can take a level 1 course, so hopefully soon i can get my level 1.
Also this year as apart of my study i get this:

What qualification will I receive?
Certificate III in Fitness or a Statement of Attainment for each successfully completed unit. Upon gaining the Certificate III in Fitness, individuals may apply to the Australian Sports Commission for a Level 3 Coaching Principles Certificate.

[Coachpete]

NCAS Level 2

[tonyp]

same as coachpete

[SLICE23]

LEVEL 2

meh, damn you all..
my plan was level 1 at 16 ( start of 04) and level 2 before 18!!!
now it looks like level 1 before 18, and hopefully level 2 i dont now.. id have to goto brissy for it.. shit.. and id prob be 19.. man..

[F-Bomb]

meh, damn you all..
my plan was level 1 at 16 ( start of 04) and level 2 before 18!!!
now it looks like level 1 before 18, and hopefully level 2 i dont now.. id have to goto brissy for it.. (Very Naughty Word!).. and id prob be 19.. man..

Sheesh don't bother buddy....your well and truly past it :wink:...you'll be the big 2-0 before you know it! :shock:

[Coachpete]

meh, damn you all..
my plan was level 1 at 16 ( start of 04) and level 2 before 18!!!
now it looks like level 1 before 18, and hopefully level 2 i dont now.. id have to goto brissy for it.. (Very Naughty Word!).. and id prob be 19.. man..

Hate to beak it to you....but under NCAS rules you have to actively hold Level 1 for 3 years before you can even enrol to do the Level 2 course

meh, damn you all..
my plan was level 1 at 16 ( start of 04) and level 2 before 18!!!
now it looks like level 1 before 18, and hopefully level 2 i dont now.. id have to goto brissy for it.. (Very Naughty Word!).. and id prob be 19.. man..

Hate to beak it to you....but under NCAS rules you have to actively hold Level 1 for 3 years before you can even enrol to do the Level 2 course

hmm... im pretty dam sure that the way i saw it in vic it was 12 months,
:? :?

[Blind Teddy]

Just want to pose this question.
Do you think that by doing a coaching course would make you a better coach than those who haven't?
My arguement is that you can't teach common sense....

Just want to pose this question.
Do you think that by doing a coaching course would make you a better coach than those who haven't?
My arguement is that you can't teach common sense....

my answer is no i dont, but i think having NCAS levels def gives u a advantage over someone who doesnt when it comes to employment

[Lemon Custard]

I've got nothing either (fantastic English there..) I used to coach weekly all day long, and I loved it. Unfortunately the politics at Sutho (you'd know about those CP) prevented me from doing so, that and I quit before I had a chance to do anything about it.

And yeah I agree with you guys, I honestly believe coaching comes from a knowledge and love of the game. I also don't believe the qualities of a good coach can be taught, but the qualifications make you seem more worthy of a coaching job, whether that be the case or not.

[RandyOrton]

NCAS Level 2

[Coachpete]

Just want to pose this question.
Do you think that by doing a coaching course would make you a better coach than those who haven't?
My arguement is that you can't teach common sense....

Doesn't necessarily make you a better coach............but the bottom line is if you want to get anywhere at a higher level you have to be accredited

[Blind Teddy]

You guys believe that by doing the course it would make for a better coach.
What if you were illiterate as far as writing went but somehow a great communicator with other people.
I reckon that Lindsay Gaze and Co. have never done the courses.
The only things that these courses give you are that you are able to listen, make notes and pass a written test.
Still doesn't tell me if you can coach........

[Lemon Custard]

Sorry blind teddy, I may have missed it (if so point it out) but did anyone actually say "Yes, having the qualification makes you a better coach". I think everyone said "No but it helps".... :?

Sorry blind teddy, I may have missed it (if so point it out) but did anyone actually say "Yes, having the qualification makes you a better coach". I think everyone said "No but it helps".... :?

i second that

[The Landlord]

Level 1.

Well i think. I definately got my level one, but am i supposed to do something about it to keep it? I vaguely remember something about hours and getting stuff signed and rubbish like that.

I just did the course so i could coach div 1 reps.

Im sure i would have fulfilled the requirements with rep coaching/learn to play/razorback academy/primary school/local comp stuff ive done - but if i was supposed to be recording it then WHOOPS!

[Mr Book]

The good thing about doing the courses is that it reassures you of what you are teaching.

It is surprising how many holes in knowledge coaches can have even though they do a great job. These courses help with that. You should end up with a strong base knowledge after Level 1 to help teach fundamental basketball.

You may be a great coach without it but IMHO great coaches are always looking for ways to improve and those courses are part of it.

[Coachpete]

You guys believe that by doing the course it would make for a better coach.
What if you were illiterate as far as writing went but somehow a great communicator with other people.
I reckon that Lindsay Gaze and Co. have never done the courses.
The only things that these courses give you are that you are able to listen, make notes and pass a written test.
Still doesn't tell me if you can coach........

You obviously have no idea what the courses involve. They couldn't be further away from listening,taking notes and passing tests. The level 2 course in particular is heavily involved with practical aspects of basketball such as preparing and conducting training sessions,scouting,game preparation,fitness and conditioning.....and all require practical work to be done.
Oh...and BTW......what LC said :idea:

[MAIN_MAN]

I've got no coaching paperwork and I was advised by my club do do a level 1 and 2 and help out with the Junior Development and Aussie Hoops program
That was nearly a year ago and I still haven't signed up for the course.

Damn lazy i am ! :lol:

[redice]

i dont think you are necessarily better by doing the coaching course

i have met some right arses that think they can coach BECAUSE they have the level 1/2

but, sadly, they are mistaken

[Coachpete]

i dont think you are necessarily better by doing the coaching course

i have met some right arses that think they can coach BECAUSE they have the level 1/2

but, sadly, they are mistaken

I think I should mention at this point that whether or not someone has been made a better coach by the qualification it's worth considering in these litigious times that if you are accredited and a member of ABCA (Aust basketball coaches association) you automatically have access to a hefty public liability cover. If you aren't ......and little Biily or Susie slips over on a wet patch on the court at one of your training sessions and breaks their neck.....................

[SLICE23]

To be honest, level 1 & 2 are good qualifications but doesnt mean you are a better coach. im personally a level 2 but i coached 10 years rep and a national league stint before i had to go and get my levels and i was forced to do that so does that mean i was better coach before or after????
And mind you all the qualifications are for junior ball how many senior coaches or national league coaches have there levels??? EXACTLY
Theres my argument who is better, im sorry but this is my opinion experience, knowledge and the make up of the person to become better.

[Blind Teddy]

To all of you have gone and done the 2 levels of coaching courses congatulations to you. Hope you all passed because there would be nothing I could use from you lot that would actually help my coaching or knowledge of the game.
After all these courses were set up for people who KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME.
If you think this HARSH your right but in the end you will realise this to be very fair.
Study hard for those arn't naturally talented.

[Coachpete]

To all of you have gone and done the 2 levels of coaching courses congatulations to you. Hope you all passed because there would be nothing I could use from you lot that would actually help my coaching or knowledge of the game.
After all these courses were set up for people who KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME.
If you think this HARSH your right but in the end you will realise this to be very fair.
Study hard for those arn't naturally talented.


That has to be one of the biggest loads of crap I've ever read on the boards :roll:

[Lemon Custard]

To all of you have gone and done the 2 levels of coaching courses congatulations to you. Hope you all passed because there would be nothing I could use from you lot that would actually help my coaching or knowledge of the game.
After all these courses were set up for people who KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME.
If you think this HARSH your right but in the end you will realise this to be very fair.
Study hard for those arn't naturally talented.

Did someone fail?? awwww :lol: I'm sensing a lot of tension.

[Mr Book]

To all of you have gone and done the 2 levels of coaching courses congatulations to you. Hope you all passed because there would be nothing I could use from you lot that would actually help my coaching or knowledge of the game.
After all these courses were set up for people who KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME.
If you think this HARSH your right but in the end you will realise this to be very fair.
Study hard for those arn't naturally talented.

HMMM a couple of years ago the level 2 course was a big chunk of a Brian Goorjian weekend. Surely you could never learn anything from him as he has no idea about the game.

[Blind Teddy]

Betcha Mr Goojian isnt spending time on the course now that his got to the top job he wanted. You need to start thinking outside of the square.
Why was Mr Smyth dismissed??????
Bad Coach????
Bad Squad?????
Or didn't kiss enough butt?????
The course is for beginners and to keep a couple of people in employment.

[The Landlord]

To all of you have gone and done the 2 levels of coaching courses congatulations to you. Hope you all passed because there would be nothing I could use from you lot that would actually help my coaching or knowledge of the game.
After all these courses were set up for people who KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME.
If you think this HARSH your right but in the end you will realise this to be very fair.
Study hard for those arn't naturally talented.

How would you know if you havnt done a course?

[barrybazza]

I would really love to start coaching. Some of you arent painting a pretty picture though :)
I think doing the course, even if you do have 'prior knowledge' is good in terms of consoldiating knowledge. I took a quick look through components of the course and said 'oh yeh'; I remember that quite a few times, all stuff I'd let collect dust in the back of my brain.

Depends how you take it, take things in and what you do with them I guess.

[Splinters]

I am a level 2 but lets have a look at what happens in the world, if I amy.

In the US you basically do an apprenticeship then you may get a gig, most college type coaches have a degree (in all sorts of things) but have been coaching a myriad of enviroments before theyget the gig.

In countries like Lithuania you actually go to college and study to be a PE teacher/basketball coach. Not everyone does this as you must be invited and generally that is ex elite player etc.

So the answer is simple you can get skills in a few enviroments and you do not have to have a piece of paper to be a good coach, however I beleive most states and territories in Australia require you to be NCAS accredited to coach at nationals. Most associations I have been at also are requiring that to, it is just their way of covering their asses and in todays litigation run riot world I can understand it.

Does the peice of paper make you a better coach, no but it can get you some opportunities

exactly, it doesn't mean you are a better caoch then the next man, but you get reconigition for ahving your levels, I don't see why any decent coach wouldnt want them.