Free Agent List released 4th February 2008

[boz_novocastrian]

http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=ne ... y&id=74153 (http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=74153)

[NZB]

New Zealand
Derrick Alston
Brent Charlton
Orien Green
Ryan Kersten
Kirk Penney
Rick Rickert
Wayne Turner
Mika Vukona
Paora Winitana

Kirk Penney has re-signed for two more seasons.

we've had four imports - Alston, Greene, Rickert and Turner - three of whom have expressed interest in staying (although of course pen has got not been put on paper)

Kersten was signed to a two year-deal?

Not sure of Charleton's status to be honest. Might be surplus to requirements.

Winitana did sign a one-year deal.

And Vukona? Was he only signed to a one-year deal? He'd be a hot FA.

[boz_novocastrian]

yeah i was about to bring that up nzb. i say this list is around a month old. cos penney resigned in the last month

[kc4mvp]

Hawks need to get moving on re-signing if they meet tonights deadline.

They should get Ballinger naturalised and back as an Australian and get import to cover the 3 spot.

Put that together with what they have and gee there going to be competitive.

[NZB]

Also looked at Sydney - didn't Jason Smith sign a five-year deal about two seasons ago?

Or was it just Goorj?

[An5w3r]

Kendall = King
Smith = King
Worthington = Italy
Draper = King with NBA clause

[WilloWildWaves]

I notice Shipp is not on the list for the Cats, is he signed for next season or would this ( the list) been done before he arrived?

[Lemon Custard]

Blake Borgia
Dontaye Draper
Luke Kendall
Jason Smith
Isiah Victor
Mark Worthington

So the Kings, as of right now are.....
Carter
Tovey
Hinder
Saville
Crosswhite

That's pretty cool.

Blake Borgia is a free agent but Dave Pollard isn't there? Is that because Blake isn't able to be a dev. next season so he automatically goes on the list and Pollard doesn't?

[2sc945]

Why are Jason Aucoin and Ryan Kersten free agents? Aren't they DPs?

[2sc945]

* faint *

Singapore and South Melbourne simply made their whole team free agents.

[Stumps]

So the Kings, as of right now are.....
f**ked.

[Stumps]

Also looked at Sydney - didn't Jason Smith sign a five-year deal about two seasons ago?

Or was it just Goorj?
You can't sign a five-year deal. Three is the max, which he signed three seasons ago.

[An5w3r]

So the Kings, as of right now are.....
Carter
Tovey
Hinder
Saville
Crosswhite

That's pretty cool.


:lol:

At least 2 of those guys walk straight into your dream starting 5... Correct? ;)

[Punker_11]

I notice Shipp is not on the list for the Cats, is he signed for next season or would this ( the list) been done before he arrived?

im probably way off but would it have something to do with him signing for 1 year therefore continuing into next season?

[isaac]

No, probably just that the list was put together before he was signed.

[Mr bEn]

I say goodbye to Justin Brown!!

Was secretly hoping the Hawks would fold so we could get Cam T back ... 8)

[Soft Copy]

Not sure of Charleton's status to be honest. Might be surplus to requirements.


Heading back to Canada I heard.

[Soft Copy]

To quote from an article on the Breakers website posted Jan 19th, 2008:

"Kirk, Phill, Bear, Pauli, Mika, Oscar, Tim, Ryan and Paora will all be back next season, and Wayne and Rick aren’t far behind."

Seems slightly at odds with The NBL's list...

[kc4mvp]

I say goodbye to Justin Brown!!

Was secretly hoping the Hawks would fold so we could get Cam T back ... 8)

Shame on you -
Cant say you would of been the only one , but yes we have adopted Cam-T
He will be another Campbel and Sav for the Hawks now, along with Jackson/Tait/Davidson/Taylor/Kavosy/ etc etc etc

[LegoSHAQ]

If Daryl Corletto is a free agent does that mean the TIgers can't re-sign him as a 1 again? Be a shame if they have to let DC go..

[MLS]

I thought Shane was crazy enough to sign Horvath to a 2 year deal? Free Agents list suggests otherwise.

[Soft Copy]

I thought Shane was crazy enough to sign Horvath to a 2 year deal? Free Agents list suggests otherwise.

Pay absolutely no attention to the free agent list - it appears to be yet another work of fiction on the NBL site.

[Lemon Custard]

So the Kings, as of right now are.....
f**ked.

Well not really. I'm quite happy about it. Haha.


At least 2 of those guys walk straight into your dream starting 5... Correct? ;)

Actually, only two of them, but, yeah pretty much. :D

[metalslugsman]

surely Shane Heal is now a free-agent?

[snakey]

I thought that Martin Cattalini had another year on his contract. Did anybody see the local news tonight, I am sure they also said he was going to be coming back next season.

[curious]

[quote="Lemon Custard":2qsow6qe]So the Kings, as of right now are.....
f**ked.
Well not really. I'm quite happy about it. Haha.

At least 2 of those guys walk straight into your dream starting 5... Correct? ;)
Actually, only two of them, but, yeah pretty much. :D[/quote:2qsow6qe]
Any club has a right to talk to their players during the season.
It may be that those players whilst technically FA havent reached agreement with their club. Yet....

[Mike]

I thought that Martin Cattalini had another year on his contract. Did anybody see the local news tonight, I am sure they also said he was going to be coming back next season.

yeah its sed on perths radio show that he had a 2 year deal earlier in the season wen he was on the phone

[meg]

[quote="Lemon Custard":1ps7sjuq]So the Kings, as of right now are.....
f**ked.
Well not really. I'm quite happy about it. Haha.

At least 2 of those guys walk straight into your dream starting 5... Correct? ;)
Actually, only two of them, but, yeah pretty much. :D
Any club has a right to talk to their players during the season.
It may be that those players whilst technically FA havent reached agreement with their club. Yet....[/quote:1ps7sjuq]

Maybe they are waiting to see what their coaches do?

[curious]

One would imagine that for the 8 clubs in the Finals contracts at this time of season, may not be the highest priority.
Argy bargy over contract details now would be somewhat distracting.
I am not convinced at this stage the coaches are going anywhere.
Most have contracts to fullfill next season and beyond.
The speculation over Goorjian is just that. After all he is the best in the NBL. Why wouldn't the Dragons make a pitch.
Buying BG out of only 1 season of a contract makes perfect business sense than trying to buy out 3 seasons at the Dragons commencement.
But it is just rumour after all.

[Stanley]

Teams would have for wait for the re-valued player ratings to be released, no?

[isaac]

That's probably more crucial for anyone rated 3-8 or with loyalty deductions. Teams would probably be fairly safe locking down imports early, I think.

[Van_Ewen]

I say goodbye to Justin Brown!!

Was secretly hoping the Hawks would fold so we could get Cam T back ... 8)

My thoughts exactly Mr bEn. Although I woudn't like to see one of the nbl's foundation clubs go down, i would love to see that guy back with the bullets. He has the goods and would be a very productive guy coming off the bench. He would definitely take alot of pressure of Rychart.

[Southern Joe]

... I thought the rule was that a club couldn't speak to any players until 2 weeks after the season had finished unless the club had given said player their formal blessings to mspeak to other clubs ( ie .... their current club won't be renewing .. so why not let them negotiate elsewhere?)

[Lemon Custard]

Any club has a right to talk to their players during the season.
It may be that those players whilst technically FA havent reached agreement with their club. Yet....

So what you're saying, in the most round about way possible, is that some of the players on the free agents list aren't technically free agents because the Kings may have alreay made agreements with them so we aren't as screwed as Stumps thinks we are, wow this is a long question?

Sweet.

[Mike]

BASKETBALL!!!

[BethDogg]

BASKETBALL!!!Well done.

[Mike]

i think i contributed well to that thread


(I accidently pressed submit instead of preview trying to see what new sig would look like)

[BethDogg]

i think i contributed well to that thread


(I accidently pressed submit instead of preview trying to see what new sig would look like) :lol: :lol: :lol:

[isaac]

... I thought the rule was that a club couldn't speak to any players until 2 weeks after the season had finished unless the club had given said player their formal blessings to mspeak to other clubs ( ie .... their current club won't be renewing .. so why not let them negotiate elsewhere?)

Right, but teams will start exploring options before this, making indirect contact through agents or whatever.

[Voice(s)]

I thought Shane was crazy enough to sign Horvath to a 2 year deal? Free Agents list suggests otherwise.

Worse, they signed Horvath to a two year deal with an option for a third year.

[DDFan]

Free agents listings have never meant anything. Drewey was on the free agent list every year & wasn't going anywhere.
In a brief skim over what's been posted here:
1 .. It's a list of players who may be available, 2 weeks after the season's end.
2 .. A player's team can renegotiate with their own players any time they like.
3 .. Generally loyalty point & gun imports are stitched up before the deadline.
4 .. A player who is not sought to continue by his team, may be given access to other teams before the deadline, in a token of goodwill.
5 .. Rules state that they is to be no contact between any player & another team before the dead-line, unless the current team gives permission. ** cough **

The other side of the fence, is that a contracted player is not guaranteed a position, & can be sacked at any time.
I'm still not sure when the player points/worth gets worked out.

[Silencer83]

I was just looking at the Free Agent list and thought I would see if my'dream team' for the Wildcats (based upon contracted players) would fit under the points cap... amazingly it did.

C Alex Loughton (3)
PF Shawn Redhage (10)
SF Mark Worthington (10)
SG Import (10)
PG Import (10)

PG Brad Robbins (1)
SG Peter Crawford (9)
SF Jeff Dowdell (1)
PF Tom Garlepp (1)
C Paul Rogers (10)

Total 65

Negotiate Caporn's points down to 3 and release and resign him and there is our 68 :lol:

Now I know this would never eventuate but it doesn't hurt me to dream :wink:

[2sc945]

we've had four imports - Alston, Greene, Rickert and Turner - three of whom have expressed interest in staying (although of course pen has got not been put on paper)


For the Breakers, the re-signing of Rick Rickert is a MUST. IMO Rickert is a better player than Kirk Penney, he is even good enough to play NBA ball, that's how good he is. He and ex-NBAer Monster Anstey were the only 2 players averaging a double-double per game this season. The Breakers virtually drops from a Top 4 team to the eighth team after he got injured and probably won't make the play-offs if not becoz Rickert's great efforts for them earlier this season.


On the other hand, Orien Greene needs to show the stuff that made him a more than 15mpg player in NBA now if he still wants to play NBL ball next season although I guess he is probably the one who has lost interest in our league. For Wayne Turner, he probably needs a strong season in the NZNBL to claim back his NBL contract. Just forget about Uncle Alston, he probably won't be good enough even for NZNBL.

[isaac]

Alston is averaging almost 18 PPG after his first four games settling in. He'd do fine in the NZ NBL.

[Kavossy]

yeah Alston is going ok now he settled in more.

[2sc945]

Alston is averaging almost 18 PPG after his first four games settling in. He'd do fine in the NZ NBL.


But he's 2 slow and can't defend in NBL.

[STEPHtastic]

Just wondering, even though no-one would care.
Anthony Susnjara is Iceland playing some league there, right? Thats what Cam Tovey's blog said.

[2sc945]

From now on anyone who can't be upgraded from Sydney Boomers to Australia Boomers will be banished to Iceland.

[djmenow]

Wildcats make a play for Worthington. I cant see him coming here. Plus he wouldnt deserve captaincy if he did come. That should go to Redhage when Rogers finishes up.

Also making a play for Johnson.

Wildcats woo Worthington

Perth Wildcats will consider Mark Worthington as their next skipper in an attempt to lure home the star Sydney Kings forward.

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx? ... ntID=57840 (http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=16&ContentID=57840)

[pj]

Wildcats make a play for Worthington. I cant see him coming here. Plus he wouldnt deserve captaincy if he did come. That should go to Redhage when Rogers finishes up.

Also making a play for Johnson.

Wildcats woo Worthington

Perth Wildcats will consider Mark Worthington as their next skipper in an attempt to lure home the star Sydney Kings forward.

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx? ... ntID=57840 (http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=16&ContentID=57840)

Leadership roles and promises at the Cats aren't worth much, ask Burston, Harvey and Ronaldson.
Wortho would be a great signing but can't see him as a Captain.
Have been told Fisher is def coaching (college?) in the States next year. All the family moving after the season.
A new coach would help chances of MW so any chance that Goooj and Wortho could move West?

[bigdog]

But he's 2 slow and can't defend in NBL

Sure he can. he is actually a very good defender. Incredible fast hands,long limbs for blocking shots. He is easily good enough for NZNBL. Mate, I bagged the guy when he first arrived, but he has come right. He is very capable.

[Dunkin' Dan]

Here's Ross Lewis's (of The West Australian) take on the FA list...

Let the scuttlebutt begin (http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=16&ContentID=42343)

[Bench Warmer]

South Dragons: Mary Poppins – no NBL club has used a broom more in such a short time but maybe they deserve someone in control who knows how to use it properly.

:lol: :lol:

[Mike]

HEAL FOR COACH !!!

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[blueberry]

Just wondering, even though no-one would care.
Anthony Susnjara is Iceland playing some league there, right? Thats what Cam Tovey's blog said.

Yes Sus is in Iceland - I saw that on some overseas basketball site

[oozeboss]

Just wondering, even though no-one would care.
Anthony Susnjara is Iceland playing some league there, right? Thats what Cam Tovey's blog said.

Yes Sus is in Iceland - I saw that on some overseas basketball site

He's known in the local league as "The Iceman".

(Well, they all are over there.)

[boz_novocastrian]

dan that article is a cracker

[Skindog the Hawk]

Final Free Agents List

Adelaide 36ers
Matt Sutton
Darren Ng
Adam Ballinger
Neil Mottram
Axel Dench
Lanard Copeland
Mike Chappell
Julius Hodge
Shane Breheny
Brad Gerlach

Brisbane Bullets
Dusty Rychart
Justin Brown
Craig Bradshaw
Christopher Goulding
Steven Broom
Rhys Martin

Cairns Taipans
Aaron Grabau
Martin Catallini
Scott Cook
Matt Smith
Rashad Tucker
Dwayne Vale
Jared Newson
Deba George

Gold Coast Blaze
Nic Campbell
Jason Crowe
Jason Aucion
Luke Whitehead
Rowan Gray

Melbourne Tigers
Martin Muursepp
Dave Thomas
Darryl McDonald
David Stiff
Sean Lampley
Matt O’Hea
Boden Westover
Derrick McDonald

New Zealand Breakers
Mika Vukona
Brent Charlton
Paora Winitana
Wayne Turner
Rick Rickert
Ryan Kersten
Orien Green
Derrick Alston
Mike Townsend

Perth Wildcats
Ben Hunt
Rashad Phillips
Brad Robbins
Mike Homic
Gerald Brown

Singapore
Rod Grizzard
Michael Helms
Blagoj Janev
Chris Cameron
John Fitzgerald
Michael Wong
Hayden Allen
Damian Matacz
David Donaldson
Koh Meng Koon
Pathman Matialakan

South Dragons
Cortez Groves
Matt Shanahan
Nick Horvath
Brent Hobba
Shannon Seebohm
Bakari Hendrix
Nathan Herbert
Shane Heal
Brad Hill – option

Sydney Kings
Jason Smith
Mark Worthington
Dontaye Draper
Isiah Victor
Blake Borgia
David Pollard

Townsville Crocodiles
Greg Vanderjagt
Drew Williamson
Roselle Ellis
Galen Young
Michael Cedar
Chris Cedar
Max Murray
Corey Williams

West Sydney Razorbacks
Anthony Petrie
Rhys Carter
Darnell Hinson
Troy DeVries
Clint Reed
Josh Morgan
Jarrod Scoines

Wollongong Hawks
John Philip
Ben Castle
Jeremy Kench
Cameron Rigby
James Peters
Angelo Reyes
Aaron Trahair
Taylor Goodall

Additional Free Agents
Stefan Blaszczynski
Adrian Majstrovich
Anthony Susnjara
Pero Vasiljevic[/b]

[Mighty Dunks]

Luke Kendall isn't on the list Skindog just posted. Does that mean he re-signed with the Kings?

[curious]

Yes.

[Stumps]

It would appear so. Players who've signed with other clubs than their previous one are on the list.

[curious]

Ballinger's still on the list. ;)
Ng too.
Edit: Grabau too.

[Cussy]

I'm sure whupass will be having a whinge when he sees that the four European boys are classed as "additionals". Rascism.

[Southern Joe]

Luke Kendall isn't on the list Skindog just posted. Does that mean he re-signed with the Kings?


... And so ends another riveting series of Kendall Go Round Scuttlebutt!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[DDFan]

Ballinger's still on the list. ;)
Ng too.
Edit: Grabau too.You didn't read what Stumps said.
Have another crack at it. :P

[Silencer83]

Why does Joe Shipp still not appear on the Free Agent List? :?

Or have the NBL made the determination that he is not worthy of an NBL roster spot so doesn't warrant mentioning :lol:

[AngusH]

Why does Joe Shipp still not appear on the Free Agent List? :?

Or have the NBL made the determination that he is not worthy of an NBL roster spot so doesn't warrant mentioning :lol:

The Wildcats made a clerical error and signed him for 3 years.

[cat_fan]

You can remove Nathan Herbert as a free agent under South's - he announced he recently resigned with them for 2 seasons.

[MLS]

Anyone see the free agents list printed in yesteday's Herald Sun? (It was in the small-font results pages.)

It listed Chuck Harmison in the "Additional Free Agent's" section. :lol:

[Earnie Shavers]

Anyone see the free agents list printed in yesteday's Herald Sun? (It was in the small-font results pages.)

It listed Chuck Harmison in the "Additional Free Agent's" section. :lol:

Gold.

[Nerf Herder]

I don't suppose there's any chance of getting some sort of sticky posted with FA signed/unsigned and where they went to?

eg:

South Dragons
Cortez Groves
Matt Shanahan
Brent Hobba
Shannon Seebohm
Bakari Hendrix
Nathan Herbert
Brad Hill – option

In:
Nick Horvath - re-signed for X yrs.
Jason Smith - signed for 2 yrs
Mark Worthington - signed for 3 yrs

Out:
Shane Heal - banished to QLD



Sydney Kings
Dontaye Draper
Isiah Victor
Blake Borgia
David Pollard

In:

Out:
Jason Smith - signed by South Dragons for 2 yrs
Mark Worthington - signed by South Dragons for 3 yrs

Ok, so maybe I'm just bored and trying to fill in the gaps...