Crocs Squad For 2008/09

[wwebballer23]

Signed For Next Year:

John Rillie
Kelvin Roberston
Daniel Egan
Ben Pepper
Bradley Sheridan

Free Agents:

Chris Cedar
Michael Cedar
Rosell Ellis
Max Murray
Greg Vanderjagt
Corey Williams
Drew Williamson
Galen Young


What Imports To Resign:

Rossel Ellis: Rossel showed he has a lot of potential with the few games he played until he got injured.

Corey Williams: What isn't there to say about this man. He can do it all.

Who To Resign:

Drew Williamson: Getting better with more expierence.
Michael Cedar: He can shoot the ball just has to work on his ball handling.
Chris Cedar: Has potential.

Who to get rid of:

Greg Vanderjagt: He can't seem to improve. When the crocs made the descison to get release Cam Tragadh instead of Greg i think they made the wrong descision. Look who is better now.

Ben Pepper: Even though he is signed, i don't think he is match fit. He started off well in the first couple of games but hasn't done much since.



Who to get:

A quality Australian center from somewhere to replace Pepper.

[djrod]

wtf????????????

I dont care about next year!!!!!!!!! I am worried about this year

[A Really Bad Bass Player]

Corey Williams: What isn't there to say about this man. He can do it all.

I think he is amazing, but he can not shoot from outside at all

[Dunkin' Dan]

And thank goodness for that, or else there's no way he'd be playing in our humble league.

[Mike]

wtf????????????

I dont care about next year!!!!!!!!! I am worried about this year


too bad it will be over in a couple of hours

[insider]

get rid of Cedar,cant play d,dosnt move with out the ball,all the crocs need pw that can shot outside. Trevor Gleeson cant coach big men.

[curious]

Xlnt. Get a coach who can coach smalls, and not BIG men.
Isn't Briefs a BIG man?

[hendrix]

Free Agents:

Chris Cedar
Michael Cedar
Rosell Ellis
Max Murray
Greg Vanderjagt
Corey Williams
Drew Williamson
Galen Young



of those i keep the cedar boys and Drew Williamson.

Homicide and Rosell are my imports if it can be done. If Rosell won't come back, ummmmm........ someone like Rickert maybe..

If Homicide leaves i'd try to get a very, very good Aussie PG (and i can't think of any who would be available) and get Ellis and an amazing 2/3 (julius hodge for example)

I really think we need to build around a core of Australian players ALA sydney and work the imports around them, not pin all our hopes on imports being the difference (unless of course we can get Hodge or Ere).

why not chase Worthington hard???

if not trade Vanderjagt for tragardh or Ben Knight or someone like that.

[Poida]

lol @ trading taking place in the NBL.

[hendrix]

lol @ trading taking place in the NBL.

i didn't mean it in the nba sense of the word... i more meant if they were avialable, sign one of them instead of Greg..

although trades could make the NBL more interesting!

[wwebballer23]

If we can't get Homicide back we should get Jared Newson. If he had a whole pre-season under his belt he would be a great player.

[WilloWildWaves]

Resign: giveup, call it quits
Re-sign: To sign again :wink:
You got a lot of Crocs resigning yet none re-signing :lol:

[metalslugsman]

First requirement is a new coach who doesn't
(a) cry like a baby
(b) whinge like a beaten dog

when your team has been beaten. More important for your coach to concentrate on where he and the team went wrong than when the opposition called a timeout

[WilloWildWaves]

First requirement is a new coach who doesn't
(a) cry like a baby
(b) whinge like a beaten dog
You meen there is such a thing :?: in the NBL :shock: surely not :wink:

[Goose]

Yeah Gleeson definitely didn't handle defeat well. But most of the coaches in the NBL are cry babies.

[hendrix]

First requirement is a new coach who doesn't
(a) cry like a baby
(b) whinge like a beaten dog

when your team has been beaten. More important for your coach to concentrate on where he and the team went wrong than when the opposition called a timeout

I know what you're getting at, but it is an unwritten law among coaches that if you are up by a lot, you do not call a time-out in the dying stages.
I was coaching against a much better team in rep on the weekend. We were down 15 with a minute to play and their coach called a time-out. As I stood up, the score bench said to me 'gees, way to do a Fisher'
I tended to agree, its always been viewed as disrespectful. I didn't say anything but my players were far from impressed as they know its not the right thing to do.
Gleeson being annoyed about it certainly isn't the first time it's been raised and sadly it won't be the last.

[mattic]

Got to keep Homicide as a priority. As I always say, in the NBL it all starts and ends with your PG.

Twixt Ellis and Young? Hard for me to comment having not seen Rosell this year. I do know that the Crocs need good defenders and they don't come much better than Young. An added bonus is his rebounding and those sweet, sweet hands for passing. Which brings me to his shooting. How can someone who passes so well and so accurately, through virtually invisible gaps, be so bad at shooting? Another year of NBL should see his foul-count subside, as it did (slightly) in the second half of the year.

But, who's to say that Ellis can't do all that and give us some better scoring punch, too? Well, I am. If Ellis could do all that he wouldn't be playing in our League. How much a compromise it would be and in which areas, I'll leave it to the basketball luminaries here to debate; debate both the players and the effect on the team of each, when compared with the team's needs.

My ideal solution? Meet "Aussie" Rosell!

I love what Williamson, M. Cedar and especially Kelvin are doing off the bench this season. Egan and Rowdy are keepers. Pepper is good as long as he's fit and would benefit from another year in the team.

JR, although a game winner, should probably look to coming off the bench. Whether the ego and the in-game mindset can handle that, I don't know. He seems to need the minutes in order to get going.

Greg Vanderjagt had some decent performances this year but I've been often frustrated at the fact that he seems to have no "nose" for the ball. Couple that with awful hands as far catching and holding the ball are concerned and I'm worried that he's not all he should be. Then again, he's a great defender and you can't teach being 7-foot; and, on his night, can be the difference between winning and losing.

[meg]

Yeah Gleeson definitely didn't handle defeat well. But most of the coaches in the NBL are cry babies.

I've yet to see Rob Beveridge have a sook, but then, he's only new...give him a couple of seasons...

[geespots]

get rid of Cedar,cant play d,dosnt move with out the ball,all the crocs need pw that can shot outside. Trevor Gleeson cant coach big men.

agree with you totally

[mattic]

Vanderjagt will play in Brisbane next year.

[hendrix]

anyone heard any updates on Crocs plans for next season???
Homicide staying or going?
Rosell keen to return?
anything at all?

[glockers]

Is Greg playing ABA?

[hendrix]

from what I've heard Greg is at Districts as an 'emergency'

ie, they have Gibson, Williamson and Justin Brown... i think i'm forgetting someone else as well, oh Bubbles is there.

anyway,
what i heard is Greg will come into the team when Gibbo goes away to Boomers camp.

My information could be wrong though

[hendrix]

certainly a bit of room to move given the free agents list..

Greg Vanderjagt
Drew Williamson
Roselle Ellis
Galen Young
Michael Cedar
Chris Cedar
Max Murray
Corey Williams
Chris Cedar


Of all the guys on the free agents list, I hope the Crocs try to get Worthington

[isaac]

At $400k, you reckon they can afford him?

[the northener]

Of any team in the NBL the Croc's would be only one of a few that could really afford Worthington. The Croc's have the money to pony up on this type of player but when he is asking half of the salary crap you really have to wonder!!!

I mean how many teams has Gorj coached for that has gone broke or on the skids? Perhaps it's that he offers just the little bit more :wink: Wortho would have been getting at least as much as he is asking.

Last I heard Wortho was selling himself to the Taipans for a tad over 300k...and guess what? Yes they were considering it :shock:

[hendrix]

At $400k, you reckon they can afford him?

at $400k ... i hope they give him a wide berth. that's ridiculous

[djrod]

No Worhto
No Tovey
No Ballinger if his citizenship doesn't come through
No Grabau

Maybe we are going to throw some money at a college player wanting to come home or maybe a Bullets discard?

[boz_novocastrian]

would weigh be a good option for the crocs though

[curious]

Wortho would have been getting at least as much as he is asking.
Last I heard Wortho was selling himself to the Taipans for a tad over 300k...and guess what? Yes they were considering it :shock:
Last I heard Worth won't be a Taipan.
I seriously doubt that as a 3 pojnt internal player Worthington would be earning $400k, nor as an external 8 point player.
Word is the Dragons offered him TWICE what he was on in Sydney.

[dry back]

i would suggest wortho will end up at south or (i think i heard something about) perth and he is just using cairns to bump up his $$$

i'm would say the crocs would be looking at signing Corey,Rosell,Weigh,Bradshaw, and a starting 3

i would love to have worthington and i believe the crocs have the $ if he was willing to come but i doubt he is, i also think sammy mac really enjoyed his time in the ville and might be willing to come back which would be pretty good if he is injury free.

making the team look like this

Homicide/Kelvin
Rillie/Weigh
Worthington or Sammy Mac/Sheridan
Roe/Egan
Pepper/Bradsahw
DP – C.Cedar,S.Constanzo

what can i say i'm a dreamer but it could happen.

[inebriated]

REllis wont be back

A prediction.

[Knox_team]

dragons?

[mattic]

Ok, if it's a prediction, what leads you to your conclusion?

Just interested, coz this 3-way import thing we have, and which one to keep, is driving me round the twist.

[inebriated]

Ok, if it's a prediction, what leads you to your conclusion?

Just interested, coz this 3-way import thing we have, and which one to keep, is driving me round the twist.

A few things. His age and the sort of injury. I know a couple of AFL guys with a similar injury and they never really got it back together. AFL guys have similar over the head action and this thing simply takes a lot of rehab and his age like I said means to get back to NBl level.

Do the Criocs take the punt and then get left in the lurch it it goes again - all leads me to make the guess.

Mind you dont think that other guy Young will get a guernsey either.

[mattic]

Fair points.

[isaac]

Rosell would suit a team like the Hawks who might take a punt on his recovery?

[inebriated]

Fair points.

Dont get me wrong. You can of course recover and do all the rehab and regain almost all the function. But this is a whole hell of alot easier when youre young, dumb and full of cum as the saying goes.

Also the forces behind the actions of BB's reaching high, often in traffic and often with stresses on their arms means that if there is an innate weakneeses in the repair the injury can recur

The AFL guys I know said that the gym was the easiset place to feel like it was better because the movements are all pretty controlled, most are not explosive or at speed and the range of movements are very very controlled

On the field (like on the court) its a melee and they werent able to play anywhere near the same

Hope its better for him

[curious]

Crocs looking to re-sign Cedar.
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/ar ... sport.html (http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2008/04/08/12046_sport.html)

[djrod]

anything????
anyone?
:?:

[Kurupt]

Cedar gaining interest from 3 other clubs? your kidding me right

[Skindog the Hawk]

Cedar gaining interest from 3 other clubs? your kidding me right

Hmmm...Singapore, West Sydney and Wollongong, perhaps??

[djrod]

more news by the end of the week... I hope

[inebriated]

I wonder whether the whisper i heard connecting a certain player with a mohawk and andre has any truth to it?

[havrilla the gorilla]

Michael Cedar officially re-signed today:

http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=ne ... y&id=74748 (http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=74748)

Confirmed players for next season:
Rillie
Pepper
Egan
Robertson
Sheridan
M.Cedar

Leaving two import positions and two Australian positions in the ten. I would think Drew Williamson is done at Townsville and Vanderjagt has been long gone according to rumours. Was a good thing to end up in Brisbane, and while inconsistent at times still a huge upgrade on Brown IMO.

Where to from here? Hopefully re-signing Homicide but looks unlikely, and another quality forward. I would pursue outside Australia as opposed to an NBL free agent excluding Rychart.

Biggest obstacle for recruiters - convincing anybody to live in Townsville long term.... :P

[djrod]

just think of players that came here and ended up retiring here...

Rose, Reidy, Goodwin, Blades, Froling, Kruger - they all seem happy

Homicide will be a Croc - not going anywhere else!!!

[inebriated]

just think of players that came here and ended up retiring here...

Rose, Reidy, Goodwin, Blades, Froling, Kruger - they all seem happy

Homicide will be a Croc - not going anywhere else!!!

Hang on a minute there young fella!

Rose & da Bear were marquee players who went to Queensland at the request of the coach from what my memory tells me. The last three werent anywhere near the same league as those two. Blades? Cant even recall him. Goodwin from memory was struggling on the Gold Coast and really didnt blossom till he went up north.

Dont know how happy Rose was if he ended up playing for Cairns. How'd that all happen?

[djrod]

Hang on a minute there old fella!

I am referring to these guys liking the city of townsville and liking so much they ended up staying here to raise their families...

David Blades was our first and best starting point guard... (I first watched him play for Toowoomba in the SBL since the mid 80's and ended up playing A Grade with him.)

I think it is disgraceful that you don't know him - he is in our 'Roll of Honour'

http://www.crocodiles.com.au/site/_content/image/00116831-image.jpg

[Angela]

Retain trevor gleeson is the crocs' no. 1 priority, players ain't matter, only few coaches on this planet could take a team with the least talent to the furtherest.

[djrod]

news travels slow to the Ukraine eh?

He already has re-signed!

[inebriated]

Hang on a minute there old fella!

I am referring to these guys liking the city of townsville and liking so much they ended up staying here to raise their families...

David Blades was our first and best starting point guard... (I first watched him play for Toowoomba in the SBL since the mid 80's and ended up playing A Grade with him.)

I think it is disgraceful that you don't know him - he is in our 'Roll of Honour'

http://www.crocodiles.com.au/site/_content/image/00116831-image.jpg

Gee dj - you're a bit harsh saying its disgraceful I dont know him. How many years ago was that??? I mean do YOU know who David Winslow?

Down here the Crocs (used to be the suns??) has always had a hard rep - mainly about being a redneck crowd and too damn hot by half.

From memory, Sam Mck went north to chase the bucks.

Wayne Turner was a hell of PG and Blades would have to be pretty good to beat him or Derek Rucker

[djrod]

who the import for the 6ers in 82 or 83?

[inebriated]

who the import for the 6ers in 82 or 83?

You win - beat me.

[Ryan711]

The crocs have resigned 2 of there imports from last year.

[inebriated]

The crocs have resigned 2 of there imports from last year.

Which ones? Williams, Young or REllis?

[Goose]

williams and ellis please. t'would be well good lassy.

[djrod]

Galen Young GONE (http://www.crocodiles.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=74778)

[boz_novocastrian]

bloody good decision by crocs management no der they needed an import who could score. esp with rillie coming into the twilight of his career.

djrod did the steelcats used to be known as the townsville heat

[djrod]

no the heat are still rolling - coached by Rob Rose and led by Andrew Goodwin, Michael & Chris Cedar

The Steelcats are my wife's NQ Netball team - they play in the State League if you are still reading :wink:

visit the website that I made if you want more info - or a pic of my beautiful wife!

[inebriated]

no the heat are still rolling - coached by Rob Rose and led by Andrew Goodwin, Michael & Chris Cedar

The Steelcats are my wife's NQ Netball team - they play in the State League if you are still reading :wink:

visit the website that I made if you want more info - or a pic of my beautiful wife!

Dj - ya got some naked pics of the mrs???

[AngusH]

bloody good decision by crocs management no der they needed an import who could score. esp with rillie coming into the twilight of his career.


Still, Galen gave them a lot of things outside of scoring that will need to be replaced.

[Poida]

no the heat are still rolling - coached by Rob Rose and led by Andrew Goodwin, Michael & Chris Cedar

The Steelcats are my wife's NQ Netball team - they play in the State League if you are still reading :wink:

visit the website that I made if you want more info - or a pic of my beautiful wife!

Dj - ya got some naked pics of the mrs???

:shock: :lol:

[hendrix]

no great surprise to see Young leave.

I think he can definitely cut it in this league and he would have been ideal at last year's Kings or a team that has a lot of Australian scorers...

The guy is a demon defensively, but the Crocs need scoring

[djrod]

Rosell Ellis Signed (http://www.crocodiles.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=74790)

[Stanley]

Rosell Ellis Signed (http://www.crocodiles.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=74790)

Nice re-signing for Crocs.

Would have loved to see him at Hawks.

[hendrix]

swweeeet!!!!

I hope he's fit and healthy, because the Crocs sure could use a post presence!.

If we can get homicide back things are looking ok.

Williams
Rillie
Sheridan
Ellis
Pepper

williamson
robertson
cedar (possibly both??)
egan
vanderjagt or his replacement
am i missing anyone?

[djrod]

it looks as though Vanderjagt and Williamson will not be back next year...

One returning college player is in the Crocs sights though

I also thought players like Boucher, Mottram, Castle or Grabau were also they type of player we were looking at.

[hendrix]

it looks as though Vanderjagt and Williamson will not be back next year...

One returning college player is in the Crocs sights though

I also thought players like Boucher, Mottram, Castle or Grabau were also they type of player we were looking at.

Weigh? I thought his dad had some role in the new Bullets consortium?
Of the ones you listed, I wouldn't mind Boucher or Mottram.
Castle was playing GBL in Brissy last time I went along and someone mentioned he might retire from NBL, just a random comment on the night, so it might not be right.

[djrod]

Weigh is going to Perth with Joey Wright... Boucher is going to NZ... that leaves 2

[glockers]

Weigh is going to Perth with Joey Wright... Boucher is going to NZ... that leaves 2

Joey signed a new deal with Brisbane for 5 years.

[boz_novocastrian]

bloody good decision by crocs management no der they needed an import who could score. esp with rillie coming into the twilight of his career.


Still, Galen gave them a lot of things outside of scoring that will need to be replaced.

very true. i think the kings need such a player since jason smith has gone south

[angry ant]

who the import for the 6ers in 82 or 83?
Wasn't Wayne McDaniel import in '83?

[curious]

Yes.

[angry ant]

Yes.
Good.

[djrod]

Weigh is going to Perth with Joey Wright... Boucher is going to NZ... that leaves 2

Joey signed a new deal with Brisbane for 5 years.

Sorry - i did mean Brisbane

Weigh and his father are pretty close to Joey and credit a lot of his success in basketball to him

[scooterrich]

In the CM this morning Brad Williamson has requested a release from the Bullets and is tipped to join the Crocs

[djrod]

that would be nice...

our 10th player is Vanderjagt... DAVID not GREG (or so the Tsv Bully says today)

David is 7ft 110kg dripping wet and is more of an outside player that Greg is. Great upcoming talent though

[djrod]

Davd Vanderjagt is NOT going to sign with the Crocs (http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=74909) ... yet

but there will be a signing announced later this week.

[angry ant]

Crocs to unveil new signing

http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=74918

[cammo]

Well, someone here must know who it is. Spill it bitches!

[AngusH]

Well, someone here must know who it is. Spill it bitches!

The announcement was made like 2 hours ago, should be up somewhere you'd think.

[glockers]

I'm not at work till 2pm. Otherwise I would post any news from the wire.

[djrod]

press release coming soon - just updating the website first

[Stanley]

In the CM this morning Brad Williamson has requested a release from the Bullets and is tipped to join the Crocs

Good call Scoot

[djrod]

Brad Williamson signs with the Crocs for 3 years (http://www.crocodiles.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=74916)

[trey]

The Crocs squad looks very small with only Ellis, Pepper and Egan able to fill the PF and C roles. I know the development player will probably be a PF/C but you wouldn't expect them to play many minutes. Who do they believe will cover the minutes played by Greg V last year?

[djrod]

small ball baby - run n gun

it plays right into homicide's hands

Ellis
Egan
Rillie
Robertson/Williamson
Homicide

[trey]

Small ball is not a good sign about our chances.

Unfortunately with the Warriors not making the NBA playoffs and the early exit of the Suns from the playoffs, small ball is dead. While exciting to watch, it will not win you a championship. Last season's NBL finals highlighted that a team with a dominant big man will always prevail.

[Shannon Noll]

small ball baby - run n gun

it plays right into homicide's hands

Ellis
Egan
Rillie
Robertson/Williamson
Homicide

That's pretty extreme small ball. It'll be entertaining though, they'll win their share. Should make playoffs.

[sixers33]

Well, you have Ben Pepper, you just need a backup Centre/forward that can bring you 20-30 mins.

[WHIPS]

small ball baby - run n gun

it plays right into homicide's hands

Ellis
Egan
Rillie
Robertson/Williamson
Homicide

Is it likely they'd run with Rillie at the 3? Oh, god..

[Shannon Noll]

Well, you have Ben Pepper, you just need a backup Centre/forward that can bring you 20-30 mins.

Oh f*ck yeah Pepper. Well he'll start surely.

B-Pepp, Ellis, Egan/Williamson, Rillie, Homicide. Looking a lot better.

[inebriated]

Gonna struggle

Pepper is broke
Ellis might be broke
Rillie is getting old

[hendrix]

Not a big fan of the Williamson signing really.
He shoots threes well at times but that's about it.
we need more bigs really, especially now Dave Vanderjagt's going to college.

[Stanley]

Well, you have Ben Pepper, you just need a backup Centre/forward that can bring you 20-30 mins.

Axel Ench, his "D" would fit well with the Crocs

[djrod]

We need to sign a Young Australian Player as our last signing - they have to be under 22 i think

The team I listed above is just a team they will use during the games at some stages - our small ball team

The starters will be:

Pepper
Ellis
Sheridan
Rillie
Williams

That starting team can match it with any other team IMO

[inebriated]

The starters will be:

Pepper
Ellis
Sheridan
Rillie
Williams

That starting team can match it with any other team IMO

What about for the other 3 quarters?

[boz_novocastrian]

yap's can be under age of 24 up until 31st december 2008

[angry ant]

Crocs re-sign Rohan Short and Lyndon Brieffies as Assistant Coaches.

http://www.crocodiles.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=74995

[Wild 1]

The starters will be:

Pepper
Ellis
Sheridan
Rillie
Williams

That starting team can match it with any other team IMO


Apart from Sheridan :P

If Ellis is 100% he's a MVP candidate, capable of big double doubles in any game. That'll be a key.

[inebriated]

The starters will be:

Pepper
Ellis
Sheridan
Rillie
Williams

That starting team can match it with any other team IMO


Apart from Sheridan :P

If Ellis is 100% he's a MVP candidate, capable of big double doubles in any game. That'll be a key.

Thats not exactly what I said

I see that unit being competitive - as a unit - for maybe a qtr - qtr and a half.

Then - what???

Pepper is a real iffy quality after a short burst.
Sheridan even more so
Egan is a role player - hardly a big impact player
Homicide has no real pt back up - Cedar and Kel just aint it.
And even with Ellis (as best an u/k physical qty) - the small ball approach is lacking the depth to sustain it past that qtr to half

I see troubles ahead

[djrod]

it won't stop me supporting them!

[inebriated]

it won't stop me supporting them!

Goodonya!

Now how about getting the bosses to open their purse strings and buy the players that are on offer.

Down here, the mindset is very much that and the results will be forthcoming

The Crocs - ala the same ol tired board when I was there - will bring you the same ol' shmaltz.

[havrilla the gorilla]

The Crocs will make the playoffs, how deep they go will depend on injuries. If Pepper misses any of the finals or goes down during the season they will struggle, same goes for Rillie. If I were a Crocs fan, I'd feel pretty confident in my teams chances at the minute compared to the other sides rosters right now(Melbourne clubs excluded).

However the window for a title is closing fast.

[djrod]

I have been assured by a few board members that they are going to do everything in their powers to make the Crocs win!

I can only take their word... and then keep the faith and support them.

We are the only team that has signed 2 imports (i think) and we have signed 8 players from last season - we aren't going to struggle to gel because they have a season under their belts - if they play like a team, give 110%, are motivated (all Trevor Gleeson team's traits) and they have a good year with injuries, I don't see why we can't win.

[critic]

I'm told Stephen Broome (Ex Bullets Dev Player) is trialling. Perhaps someone closer to the club can update on how he's going?? Apologies if this is already posted

[boz_novocastrian]

would broom be a yap as he is 20/21 and is 6'9

[djrod]

has trialled

[glockers]

Very, very average player. SB is all garbage points and not much else.

[djrod]

Crocs complete their 08/09 Roster (http://www.crocodiles.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=75041)

[hendrix]

gees,

if only they'd known about the bullets situation, we might have gotten weigh........

[Derek]

it won't stop me supporting them!

Goodonya!

Now how about getting the bosses to open their purse strings...

I was at the Crocs' dinner this year, and I can assure you djrod asked them in no uncertain terms to do just that. :P

DN

[inebriated]

And DN - what did they say in response to his unequivocal assertion???

[Derek]

And DN - what did they say in response to his unequivocal assertion???

I don't know, only one party in that conversation was mic'ed up. :P

DN

[inebriated]

DJrod - I guess youve followed that brief interchange between me and Derek

What was their reply???

[djrod]

I have been assured by a few board members that they are going to do everything in their powers to make the Crocs win!

I can only take their word... and then keep the faith and support them. 10 posts above this one!

As an organisation, we’ve always been committed to following our business model and have never been lured into excessive spending. We have faced a lot of criticism for this and we understand that we are still to win a championship but we are now in a position to take advantage in the future. Here today and gone tomorrow is not the approach that I believe the people of Townsville wanted.

I think that is the CORRECT answer...

It doesn’t surprise me that these two teams are struggling financially. The Kings and Bullets are two clubs that have increased the financial pressure on themselves, the league and the other clubs by establishing new bench marks in player conditions and payments in their bids to secure championships and stronger positions within the sporting landscapes in their communities. This ultimately has a price and we are seeing that currently. Does this mean that the NBL won’t survive: most certainly not

Nicely said I think

[inebriated]

thanx dj

[Mammon]

Ellis is an upgrade of Young, Broom is a downgrade of Vanderjagt, B Williamson is a slight upgrade of D Williamson, overall not much improvement, can't expect the crocs doing anything better than its overperformed 2007/08 season.

[angry ant]

Gleeson returns from US

Townsville Crocodiles Head Coach Trevor Gleeson recently returned from a three week stint in the United States, where he caught up with import Rosell Ellis and a variety of high profile US coaches.

http://nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=75076

[inebriated]

DJ- thought I'd transpose from another thread that you may not revisit and this is a Crocs thread after all

That thread read:

shike wrote:

djrod wrote:

shike wrote:

fraggs

Townsville have shown us how to do it so maybe we should follow what they do.



Yes and they are loosing fans reasonably quickly and I don't see it picking up or sustaining their fans this coming season.



if you call a 86% return of season members for 5 years or more losing fans quickly I suppose you are right... :shock:

Haven't seen a full house for yonks,
I remember the days when nearly every home game was a sell out.
So yes the fans are dropping off even blind Freddie can see that. :(

last sellout was January 25th 2008 - Round 19 of last season - anything else you would like me to clear up you?

dj - I think you're alivin' in a bit of a lalaland - Wow - they had a sell out then

Tell me the average # of seats filled year on year and then maybe we can seriously discuss how the crowd #'s pan out

Back in the day( ;)) every game (from memory - 68) were sell outs

Back to you

Little birdie whispered and told me Tony Ireland has left the Board??? True???

[djrod]

True... and he appointed a replacement, Tony Perry, which is his right to do.

I just corrected him on the false statements he was making - the facts are there! Shike asked me when the last sellout was and I just quoted him the facts... He also said our fans are dropping off fast but then again, quoted the facts in the contrary!

Now your question... Our crowd average last season was 4,466 (second in the league I THINK) and total membership base of 3,846... There was a record of 69 home sellouts in a row, but ofcourse YOU would remember there were only 4141 seats in MOST of those games.

In a current era where teams appear to be fallng over, left, right and centre, the Crocs still have VERY strong community support, corporate support and board support.

[inebriated]

Now your question... Our crowd average last season was 4,466 (second in the league I THINK) and total membership base of 3,846... There was a record of 69 home sellouts in a row, but ofcourse YOU would remember there were only 4141 seats in MOST of those games. DJ

Thanx for that but if you could could you give us the year before and just out of interest the one before.

Yeah the stadium was extended but from memory, there were a fair of sold out games in a row AFTER the expansion to 5200+ seats

I'm just after the trend-line on croc crowds thats all. Good as they may be in comparion, be nice to know

Or...is there a place to go to get this stuff? Cant find it at the pub.

[djrod]

yeah i have been trying to find them...

There is a website called www.austadiums.com (http://www.austadiums.com) but it is down at the moment - they have all of the stats for every season and every sport...

All I did find was that in 2004/05 our average went down by 66 - not sure what the actual figures were though.

I do understand what you are saying though!

[djrod]

From the Corporate guide of 2007/08 - it shows the Crowd Average for the 2006/07 season was 4603 - highest in the league.

a drop of 137 from 07 to 08 - a drop of almost 3%

[hendrix]

capacity from memory is 5257.......

that's the number they put on scoresheets for attendances when the team made the grand final.

[djrod]

Corey Williams Q & A HERE (http://www.crocodiles.com.au)

[angry ant]

Crocs hit Mackay

As part of the Townsville Crocodiles relationship with the Mackay Amateur Basketball Association, Crocs Assistant Coach Rohan Short and players John Rillie, Kelvin Robertson and Daniel Egan will conduct a series of basketball clinics over Saturday and Sunday.

http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=75159

[angry ant]

Brad Williamson Q&A
New Townsville Crocodiles recruit Brad Williamson arrives in Townsville later this week to prepare for the upcoming 2008/09 NBL season. Williamson joins Townsville after a five-season stint with the Brisbane Bullets.

The 27 year-old is now looking to improve himself and take a fresh approach to his game this coming season. He brings youth and experience to the roster and is a proven winner after being part of the Brisbane Bullets team that took out the 2007 NBL Championship.

The Townsville Crocodiles website caught up with Brad to see how things have been during the break and his thoughts on the upcoming season.

http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=75395

[DoubleA]

Brad Williamson Q&A
New Townsville Crocodiles recruit Brad Williamson arrives in Townsville later this week to prepare for the upcoming 2008/09 NBL season. Williamson joins Townsville after a five-season stint with the Brisbane Bullets.

The 27 year-old is now looking to improve himself and take a fresh approach to his game this coming season. He brings youth and experience to the roster and is a proven winner after being part of the Brisbane Bullets team that took out the 2007 NBL Championship.

The Townsville Crocodiles website caught up with Brad to see how things have been during the break and his thoughts on the upcoming season.

http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=75395

27? Wow

[angry ant]

Crocs take on top teams in Pre-Season

The Townsville McDonald’s Crocodiles will be hosting three pre-season games this season in Townsville at Murray Stadium. The Crocs have been able to secure three top teams in the Perth Wildcats, Cairns Taipans and Melbourne Tigers for pre-season games.

The Crocs will take on the Perth Wildcats on Thursday 7 August, Cairns Taipans on Thursday 14 August and the Melbourne Tigers on Thursday 4 September. All three games will be played at Murray Stadium.

http://www.crocodiles.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=75469

http://www.crocodiles.com.au/site/_content/image/00118788-image.jpg

(mod note - DO NOT CUT AND PASTE FULL ARTICLES!)

[djmenow]

According to Ch10 sport in Perth Cameron Tovey has signed up with the Crocs for this coming season.

[Mike]

yeah heard that aswell

[djrod]

Double injury blow for Crocs (http://www.crocodiles.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=75725)

[djrod]

Crocs sign Cam Tovey (http://www.crocodiles.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=75740)

[Dunkin' Dan]

Subtract Sheridan and add Tovey? This team becomes more likeable every week. If you didn't have Hinder I'd be considering a membership :P

They are going to be a fun team to watch this season.

[djrod]

Its amazing... I went to Cans last week and got to sit right behind the Crocs bench and listen to the team interact etc and Rusty is one of my favourites!

I feel so dirty

But he is a very smart player that adds a lot to the team... and a nice guy aswell.

so dirty

He even flopped once and I liked it

ok now that is wrong :argh: