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Derek
26-04-2008, 06:57 AM
Welcome to phpBB version 3! We've been testing this new version for a few months now, and we've upgraded the production system to the very latest in open-source, free (as in beer), forum technology.

Here's what's new for you, our dear users. Check our your User Control Panel (http://www.ozhoopsboards.com/ucp.php) for all this and more!

- Bookmark threads. Keep your favourite threads close by bookmarking them in your profile, and you can access them from any computer once you've logged in.

- Disable Private Messages. Getting unwanted attention? You can automatically refuse all PMs at the flick of a switch, and prevent users from e-mailing you using the address in your profile.

- Your Boards, the way you want.
Don't want to see smilies, signatures, or avatars? No problem! Just disable them.
Not fussed about seeing naughty words? Disable the swear filter! (The filter remains on by default, and excessive use of obscene language will result in probation: see below.)
Sort topics and replies in reverse date order (latest first) or in conversation order (oldest first).

- Filter the signal from the noise. Add a user to your Foes list, and you'll never see a post from them again! Unless you want to. (Ignored posts show up as blank in the thread.) Similarly, add users to your Friends list and their posts will be highlighted.

- Still want to bring something to our attention? Click http://www.ozhoopsboards.com/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_user_warn.gif Report post to call in the cavalry.

If you're having difficulty with any of the new features on The Boards, post in this forum and we'll try and help out.

DN

Stumps
26-04-2008, 10:44 AM
Are you informed when another user adds you to their Friends or Foe list?

Daevo
26-04-2008, 10:52 AM
Are you informed when another user adds you to their Friends or Foe list?
I'm sure you'll find out soon enough :P

rjd
26-04-2008, 04:53 PM
I have to say I prefer the avatars on the left. I find it easier to know who is posting when the avatars are on the left. Am I the only one who thinks that?

The Glove
26-04-2008, 06:42 PM
I have to say I prefer the avatars on the left. I find it easier to know who is posting when the avatars are on the left. Am I the only one who thinks that?
Nope,

I think the majority of forums such as this have user details on the left. I reckon they should go back to where they came from.

Southern Joe
26-04-2008, 08:08 PM
... Yeah .... I get accustomed to avs on teh left.

meg
26-04-2008, 08:59 PM
... Yeah .... I get accustomed to avs on teh left.

It's like being accustomed to h further to the left, too...(just testing bold, joe! ;))

Cussy
26-04-2008, 09:09 PM
One thing I did enjoy about the old Boards was the simplicity of it all. No frills, no fuss - I hate the Fuss on this one. Get rid of the Fuss.

meg
26-04-2008, 09:15 PM
You really shouldn't pick on Hound...what did he do?

Da Houndawg #55
26-04-2008, 09:30 PM
One thing I did enjoy about the old Boards was the simplicity of it all. No frills, no fuss - I hate the Fuss on this one. Get rid of the Fuss.
Believe me, nobody hates the fuss more than me...

meg
26-04-2008, 09:48 PM
Registered users: Cram, Gigabot [Bot], Google [Bot], meg, The Customer, Yahoo [Bot]

Who are these bot dudes? Have they come to take over the world?

rjd
27-04-2008, 09:48 AM
One thing I did enjoy about the old Boards was the simplicity of it all.

Yeah, those were the days.

Stanley
27-04-2008, 12:37 PM
Good to see phpbb3 now up and running, it has some good/useful tools.

But in a era when the talk is Web 2.0 (even some talking 3.0), I don't want too sound critical, but this has got to be one of the ugliest forum themes i've used, it's like we're back in 1998... Web 0.25

I'm assuming the green colour is to signify "OZ", but you'd be hard pressed to find a decent looking site using this tone of green and gold.

The home page is doing my head in with all the logos, and animated gifs.

Name/Avatars on the right - what the? This is something the Wheel Re-Design Team i work for would come up with.. No Reason phpbb team...

The default phpbb3 theme is nice, clean and simple. Any chance of adding that to allow users to select the theme they use?

Da Houndawg #55
27-04-2008, 02:17 PM
Registered users: Cram, Gigabot [Bot], Google [Bot], meg, The Customer, Yahoo [Bot]

Who are these bot dudes? Have they come to take over the world?
To enable search engines to find the site and such.

Another few sites I've frequented/admined have had the same thing.

Derek
27-04-2008, 09:04 PM
We've gone back to the default phpBB scheme (proSilver) for the moment to see how people go. You can still choose the green theme in your User Control Panel.

DN

sixers33
27-04-2008, 09:10 PM
Thanks Derek :P

Ps. The Ozhoops custom style isn't an option on the user control panel.

gangsta boo
27-04-2008, 09:35 PM
this is nicer on the eyes thanks teh derek

meg
27-04-2008, 09:37 PM
We've gone back to the default phpBB scheme (proSilver) for the moment to see how people go. You can still choose the green theme in your User Control Panel.

DN

Mmmm...widescreen. Thanks, Teh Derek. Sorry about the whinging. :oops:

Homer
27-04-2008, 09:57 PM
Both the previous colors and this blue color are hard on the eyes,
Also dificult to diferenciate the quotes from the new postings.
I also add my vote to the "Avitars on the left"
Come to think of it, I hate progress.
Lets go back to the old colors from pre-Anzac Day. :roll:

sixers33
27-04-2008, 10:04 PM
Both the previous colors and this blue color are hard on the eyes,
Also dificult to diferenciate the quotes from the new postings.
I also add my vote to the "Avitars on the left"
Come to think of it, I hate progress.
Lets go back to the old colors from pre-Anzac Day. :roll:

I disagree, i like this prosilver theme.

worldbefree
27-04-2008, 11:59 PM
I thought the green was just some Crocodiles homer stuff. :)

isaac
28-04-2008, 08:39 AM
+1 to avatars on left. Thanks.

Da Houndawg #55
28-04-2008, 08:56 AM
Avatars on the right does make it easier to access by phone though, the name appears under the text of the post, avatars don't clog it for those people.

Although I suspect the people who access the boards by phone may be a minority...

LegoSHAQ
28-04-2008, 09:09 AM
Well I actually like the avatars on the right.

I guess when things change people are imediately opposed to the change. I think people should give it a few weeks before they say "Avatars on the right suck".. I am used to it because I visit other forums that have been using PHPBB3 for a while and have the avatars on the right (its default).

I really like it. It returns the focus to the actual post rather than peoples profiles. Its cleaner IMO.

Stumps
28-04-2008, 09:47 AM
I really like it. It returns the focus to the actual post rather than peoples profiles.
But the post is not really something you can take in at a glance -- the avatar is. You have to focus on the post anyway in order to "consume" it, while it's more effective to have the "at-a-glance" avatar in the place where your eye naturally falls.

Soft Copy
28-04-2008, 09:48 AM
Avatars on the right does make it easier to access by phone though, the name appears under the text of the post, avatars don't clog it for those people.

Although I suspect the people who access the boards by phone may be a minority...

Avatars on the left are much better - my vote is for a change back. For those who want to access by phone, they can now disable avatars in their profile.

It's hard to put a finger on just why the site is harder to read. I guess the difference in colour between posts is just too subtle - how hard would it be to simply accentuate the diffence? I think it would help a lot if it can be done.

Stumps
28-04-2008, 09:52 AM
Not to mention that as trendy as it may be, Trebuchet is simply not as readable an online typeface as those old stalwarts Verdana and Tahoma.

Soft Copy
28-04-2008, 09:53 AM
And while I'm "nit-picking", the practice of using a quote in a signature further confuses the eye as to where one post ends and another one begins, but that is not confined to the new layout. It's a pain to begin reading a "quote", only to realise it's a humourous signature which is not related to the topic in any way. Small thing but irritating.

Da Houndawg #55
28-04-2008, 10:16 AM
Whinge, whinge, whinge...

isaac
28-04-2008, 10:36 AM
Can we assume that the Bookmark option is the same as "Watch for replies", or not?

Edit: Ignore that - just noticed it's now called Subscribe and Unsubscribe.

(Soft Copy - I agree re quotes in sigs - take out the background highlight and that'd solve that.)

LegoSHAQ
28-04-2008, 11:25 AM
I really like it. It returns the focus to the actual post rather than peoples profiles.
But the post is not really something you can take in at a glance -- the avatar is. You have to focus on the post anyway in order to "consume" it, while it's more effective to have the "at-a-glance" avatar in the place where your eye naturally falls.
Exactly.. and IMO it is better to have the part I want to "consume" at a glance.. I really couldn't give a fuck about peoples avatars.. why do they need to take pride of place?

Soft Copy
28-04-2008, 11:40 AM
Another gripe - it appears that URL links now don't open in a new window.

Just something to get used to I guess, though the number of times I've closed the linked page after reading it, only to find that I've shut down Internet Explorer completely and have to start all over again to get back to Ozhoops is getting to be a pain...

Again, a small thing but it's the 1%ers that make all the difference we're constantly being told...

Stumps
28-04-2008, 12:22 PM
I really like it. It returns the focus to the actual post rather than peoples profiles.
But the post is not really something you can take in at a glance -- the avatar is. You have to focus on the post anyway in order to "consume" it, while it's more effective to have the "at-a-glance" avatar in the place where your eye naturally falls.
Exactly.. and IMO it is better to have the part I want to "consume" at a glance.. I really couldn't give a fuck about peoples avatars.. why do they need to take pride of place?
Because they tell you at a glance who the poster is.

If people are actually going around "reading" posts at a glance, then that may explain some of the incoherent tripe and non sequiturs that get posted in response.

Da Houndawg #55
28-04-2008, 12:25 PM
So you're for the post on the left hand side, then?

Since people are accustomed to glancing at the right, perhaps people will read more thoroughly with the text on the left changing their point of focus... :P

LegoSHAQ
28-04-2008, 12:27 PM
exactly Da Houndawg #55

I think the bigger problem is people glancing at peoples name/avatar and making pre-concieved judjments then missreading the post..

Anyway thats diverging from my point which was that the actual post is the important part. Therefore it should IMO be in the place where your eye naturally falls. Who cares if you miss that someone changed their avatar or funny location text?

Da Houndawg #55
28-04-2008, 12:34 PM
Something I'd like, would be if Derek could make the simple little adjustment that has topic links direct to the most recent page rather than the first page of the topic.

Stumps
28-04-2008, 12:37 PM
I think the bigger problem is people glancing at peoples name/avatar and making pre-concieved judjments then missreading the post..
Well, if that's what some people do that certainly explains a lot. Personally, I just use it like a letterhead. It quickly and visually tells me who the author is of what I'm about to read. Putting it at the right is like putting the letterhead on the bottom or reverse side of the letter -- it defeats the purpose completely.

Anyway thats diverging from my point which was that the actual post is the important part.
Yes, it is, and it is the part that takes time and concentration to consume and therefore isn't diminished by positioning it somewhere that may require time or concentration to observe.

The user information panel, on the other hand, is pretty much empty of meaty content. It's just something to quickly glance at as you browse, as I said above like a letterhead. It makes sense to put it in the natural position of first-glance.

Who cares if you miss that someone changed their avatar or funny location text?
OK, we obviously use the user information panel for totally different purposes.

Stumps
28-04-2008, 12:38 PM
Something I'd like, would be if Derek could make the simple little adjustment that has topic links direct to the most recent page rather than the first page of the topic.
Just click on the little square to the left that takes you to the most recent unread post.

Happily, unlike the last version, this one actually remembers which posts you haven't read even when you close your browser!

Da Houndawg #55
28-04-2008, 12:50 PM
I know I could click on the little square... but I forget like an idiot.

Its a very small thing to change in the global controls as an Admin and i think most recent page makes more sense than first one anyway.

Also know about the remembering what you've read even with browser closing, love that about PostUp... I think there's a relatively simple code to make URLs open fresh browser windows as well, by memory...

LegoSHAQ
28-04-2008, 01:00 PM
Anyway thats diverging from my point which was that the actual post is the important part.
Yes, it is, and it is the part that takes time and concentration to consume and therefore isn't diminished by positioning it somewhere that may require time or concentration to observe.

If only everyone had the time and concentration of you Stumps.. then it wouldn't be a problem.. :)

Who cares if you miss that someone changed their avatar or funny location text?
OK, we obviously use the user information panel for totally different purposes.
What other purpose does it serve?
You already have the name and time stamp at the top of each post. ie. by Stumps on Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:38 pm.

Stumps
28-04-2008, 01:04 PM
As I said, I use it like a letterhead -- it gives me a split-second visual indication of the identity of the author.

LegoSHAQ
28-04-2008, 01:07 PM
You already have the name and time stamp at the top of each post. ie. by Stumps on Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:38 pm.

Stumps
28-04-2008, 02:07 PM
When you have to actually read something, you lose the point of a quick visual identifier.

bucky
28-04-2008, 02:15 PM
We've gone back to the default phpBB scheme (proSilver) for the moment to see how people go. You can still choose the green theme in your User Control Panel.

DN

How?
The only option I get is prosilver and im not a fan. The green looked good when it was on but my fav is definatly the pink 8)

bucky
28-04-2008, 02:24 PM
A couple of other things, why does it have
Re: What's New, Pussycat?
above each post?

I know what thread i'm in I dont need a reminder every post.


Maybe im a little picky but whatcha gunna do :?:

Da Houndawg #55
28-04-2008, 02:28 PM
If you're doing a search that R.E. What's new Pussycat helps a fair bit.

It does tell you when other people are online too... can see that you are incidentally right now.

isaac
28-04-2008, 04:41 PM
You already have the name and time stamp at the top of each post. ie. by Stumps on Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:38 pm.

Which is given less visual weight than the post title, and the title, far more often than not, is just the topic title with the "Re: " prefix (e.g., relatively unimportant). Like Stumps, I used the avatars for a very quick review of identities - it's barely even a conscious thought but my reflex is to check for it anyway. I don't think I've even come across a forum before with avatars on the right side.

Of course, all of this said, I mostly use the avatars as a means of identifying and skipping Stumps' posts*, and my back-up method of spotting the excessive quoting is still available. ;)

* It's not that I usually disagree with them, mostly that they're fairly predictable and long.

rjd
28-04-2008, 04:54 PM
I'm with Stumps on the avatar thing. Avatars are really useful as an identifier. It's a really convenient visual cue. The logical placement is on the left side.

In the previous layout of Ozhoops, most of the time I'd be able to ascertain the identity of the poster immediately upon reading their post. There was no need to specifically glance at the avatar itself -- it was possible to simultaneously read the start of the post and use your peripheral vision to see the avatar to identify the poster. Now it's just too far away to the right to do that.

I suppose it sounds like a minor issue. I can't see the benefit of having the avatars on the right.

Stumps
28-04-2008, 05:22 PM
* It's not that I usually disagree with them, mostly that they're fairly predictable and long.
Yes, they tend to consist of repeating the same thing over and over in a million different ways in the hope of finding one that the other person actually understands :P

Stumps
28-04-2008, 05:24 PM
There was no need to specifically glance at the avatar itself -- it was possible to simultaneously read the start of the post and use your peripheral vision to see the avatar to identify the poster.
Well put. I hadn't specifically analysed it in this way, but now that you say it I realise it's what I do.

(Aargh, I hate how that comes across vaguely LV-ish: "Thank you for making my argument for me better than I was capable of doing.")

bucky
29-04-2008, 09:41 AM
We've gone back to the default phpBB scheme (proSilver) for the moment to see how people go. You can still choose the green theme in your User Control Panel.

DN

How?
The only option I get is prosilver and im not a fan. The green looked good when it was on but my fav is definatly the pink 8)

Its OK, it now allows me to use the green :mrgreen:

Another gripe - it appears that URL links now don't open in a new window.

Is this something thats controlled by user or admin?
Its the first thing I would fix if I knew how.

MLS
29-04-2008, 01:43 PM
Reading is a left-right activity, so it would be much easier if the usernames and avatars were back on the left hand side of the page as they used to be.

LegoSHAQ
29-04-2008, 09:06 PM
There was no need to specifically glance at the avatar itself -- it was possible to simultaneously read the start of the post and use your peripheral vision to see the avatar to identify the poster.
Well put. I hadn't specifically analysed it in this way, but now that you say it I realise it's what I do.

(Aargh, I hate how that comes across vaguely LV-ish: "Thank you for making my argument for me better than I was capable of doing.")
Thats exactly why I like it on the right because you read left to right so the avatar is off to the side and in my peripheral vision.
So then isn't it better having the avatar over to the right in your peripheral vision rather than on the left where your eye naturally looks?
The reasons you guys are using to say why you perfered it on the left are the reasons I like it on the right ... strange..

Stumps
29-04-2008, 09:58 PM
To use the example of the post you just wrote, on my screen no text even reaches the halfway mark of the screen. There's no chance that my eye will conveniently stray a further half-screen across to the avatar.

Lemon Custard
29-04-2008, 11:11 PM
By the way Derek, thanks for linking the phpBB image to the boards homepage. Quite handy.

LegoSHAQ
30-04-2008, 06:54 AM
To use the example of the post you just wrote, on my screen no text even reaches the halfway mark of the screen. There's no chance that my eye will conveniently stray a further half-screen across to the avatar.
Really? You must have a bloody big screen or sit really close to your screen then... which is bad for your eyes you know...

Soft Copy
30-04-2008, 02:07 PM
Another gripe - it appears that URL links now don't open in a new window.

Is this something thats controlled by user or admin?
Its the first thing I would fix if I knew how.
If you're using Internet Explorer 7 (with tabbed browsing) and can remember to do this which is where I fall down, press the Ctrl & Shift keys while clicking on the link and it will open in another tab.

LegoSHAQ
30-04-2008, 05:04 PM
[quote="Soft Copy":3k9re41c]Another gripe - it appears that URL links now don't open in a new window.

Is this something thats controlled by user or admin?
Its the first thing I would fix if I knew how.
If you're using Internet Explorer 7 (with tabbed browsing) and can remember to do this which is where I fall down, press the Ctrl & Shift keys while clicking on the link and it will open in another tab.[/quote:3k9re41c]
Or just clink the middle mouse button (scroll wheel) on the link.. most people have scroll wheel mice these days dont they?

Also you only have to press Ctrl and left click to open a link in a new tab. The addition of Shift makes it focus on the new opened tab. Also if you want to open in a new Window it is Shift and left click. It's the same for anyone using Firefox.. which IE7 stole tabbed browsing idea from..

Mookie
30-04-2008, 07:31 PM
It's the same for anyone using Firefox.. which IE7 stole tabbed browsing idea from..

...or Opera, but that's another argument entirely ;)

Stumps
30-04-2008, 08:47 PM
To use the example of the post you just wrote, on my screen no text even reaches the halfway mark of the screen. There's no chance that my eye will conveniently stray a further half-screen across to the avatar.
Really? You must have a bloody big screen or sit really close to your screen then... which is bad for your eyes you know...
What has how close I sit to my screen got to do with how much text fits on it? My resolution is 1920 x 1200 on a 17" laptop. That's higher than most prefer, but hardly unique.

LegoSHAQ
30-04-2008, 09:10 PM
To use the example of the post you just wrote, on my screen no text even reaches the halfway mark of the screen. There's no chance that my eye will conveniently stray a further half-screen across to the avatar.
Really? You must have a bloody big screen or sit really close to your screen then... which is bad for your eyes you know...
What has how close I sit to my screen got to do with how much text fits on it? My resolution is 1920 x 1200 on a 17" laptop. That's higher than most prefer, but hardly unique.
What does how much text fits on your screen have to do with anything? You said "There's no chance that my eye will conveniently stray a further half-screen across to the avatar."
If you cant fit a 17" screen within 37°of unrestricted vision (average person's vision range) then you are closer then 55 cm to your screen... which would be very bad for your eyes. Seeing you said your vision cant take in more than half the screen then you must be sitting around 30cm from your screen...

Stumps
01-05-2008, 10:03 AM
So you're saying you can read what's on the left-hand edge of your screen and what's on the right-hand edge of your screen without shifting your vision at all? Wow, with your superhuman widescreen vision it's no wonder you don't have a problem with the avatar placement.

As to my example, my point was that in reading your post, my focus stayed firmly shifted to the left-hand half of the screen. There was no way that I would have taken in your avatar without deliberately casting my vision to that side. If your avatar had been in the traditional left position, I would have had no problem taking it in effortlessly while reading your post normally.

Stumps
01-05-2008, 10:04 AM
then you are closer then 55 cm to your screen... which would be very bad for your eyes
BTW, do you have any scientific backing for this claim? I seem to recall this continually being dismissed as an old wives' tale.

isaac
01-05-2008, 10:19 AM
Lego, you're missing the point(s) with this tangent about screen size. When you started reading a post on the previous incarnation of the boards, the avatars were within your immediate field of vision as you were starting from a fixed point (also true now) and avatars were just to the left of that. For many common contributors (members with avatars), you grew to identify those instinctively by colour and shape without even looking at them. Now, to do the same, you have to actually glance across to the right (or not do it at all). For me, it was the first thing that threw me when I saw the new boards layout and I'm not surprised that I'm not alone there.

(Hope this isn't big-noting too badly, but I contributed a few chapters to a published book on closely related topics (using colour, visual elements, layout) - search for my name on Amazon if at all interested.)

LegoSHAQ
01-05-2008, 11:14 AM
That is true isaac.. but thats not the argument they were making.

They said the avatar used to be in your peripheral vision when it was on the left when infact they where in the immediate field of vision..

I understand you used to like it better with the Avatar in the immediate field of vision. I like it better off to the right so I can concentrate on reading the post. I still take in the avatar in my peripheral vision. I've had no problems immediately taking in who's post I am reading.

The argument they were using for why they liked the avatar on the left was the argument I would use as to why I like it on the right. Mostly I think people don't like it because it is different to what they are used to..

BTW, do you have any scientific backing for this claim? I seem to recall this continually being dismissed as an old wives' tale.
No.. but I guess I just always believe what my mum tells me.

Stumps
01-05-2008, 11:21 AM
That is true isaac.. but thats not the argument they were making.

They said the avatar used to be in your peripheral vision when it was on the left when infact they where in the immediate field of vision..
No, isaac's argument is exactly the argument that we were making, which is that you can see and recognise the left-side avatar without having to focus on it as you start reading a post. If we have different understandings of "immediate" and "peripheral" vision, that's irrelevant, given that what we mean has been clearly explained.

I like it better off to the right so I can concentrate on reading the post.
So the avatar on the left was somehow preventing you from concentrating on reading the post?

The argument they were using for why they liked the avatar on the left was the argument I would use as to why I like it on the right.
Do you read from right to left? Or are you saying that for the same reason we don't like it on the right (we can't see it), you do like it there (because you want to not be able to see it)?

LegoSHAQ
01-05-2008, 11:44 AM
That is true isaac.. but thats not the argument they were making.

They said the avatar used to be in your peripheral vision when it was on the left when infact they where in the immediate field of vision..
No, isaac's argument is exactly the argument that we were making, which is that you can see and recognise the left-side avatar without having to focus on it as you start reading a post. If we have different understandings of "immediate" and "peripheral" vision, that's irrelevant, given that what we mean has been clearly explained.)
Sorry I thought the difference between "immediate" and "peripheral" vision was pretty obvious. But I will put the deffinitions here for you so there is no further confusion.
immediate: Close at hand; near: in the immediate vicinity. Direct line of vision.
peripheral: Related to, located in, or constituting an outer boundary or periphery.
Perceived or perceiving near the outer edges of the retina: peripheral vision. "corner of your eye".
Because the avatar on the left you DO focus on it as it is in your direct line of vision. The place where your eye naturally falls. So how can you say you don't focus on it when you start reading the post when it is on the left?

I like it better off to the right so I can concentrate on reading the post.
So the avatar on the left was somehow preventing you from concentrating on reading the post?)
Well I think curious's avatar and the like are annoying. That eye constantly moving.. it wasn't preventing concentration but I find it less of a annoyance off the the right.

The argument they were using for why they liked the avatar on the left was the argument I would use as to why I like it on the right.
Do you read from right to left? Or are you saying that for the same reason we don't like it on the right (we can't see it), you do like it there (because you want to not be able to see it)?
If you cant see the avatar in your peripheral vision when looking at the left side of the screen you have problems. Try it. Look the left side of your post and begin reading your own post. Whats that in the corner of your eye? It's your little salior man avatar. Your are not focussed on it. But you can see it there and it is recognisable as one of your posts.

I've had no problems immediately taking in who's post I am reading.

Stumps
01-05-2008, 11:50 AM
Because the avatar on the left you DO focus on it as it is in your direct line of vision. The place where your eye naturally falls. So how can you say you don't focus on it when you start reading the post when it is on the left?
When I am focused on the start of the post (reading left to right), the first words of the post are what is in my immediate vision, not the avatar to the left of it. (I don't know about you, but I have to move my focus from left to right as I read each line.) The avatar is in my "peripeheral vision", in that I can vaguely see it and recognise it without moving my eyes from the start of the post, but I am not focused on it. Perhaps that is not the scientifically correct application of the term "peripheral vision" (I don't know either way), but I think it's been abundantly clear what I (and others) have meant when we've described it that way.

Well I think curious's avatar and the like are annoying. That eye constantly moving.. it wasn't preventing concentration but I find it less of a annoyance off the the right.
Is there an option to turn off avatars? Perhaps that would be the best alternative for people like you who seem to find them distracting, while allowing them to serve their natural purpose for the rest of us who find them helpful.

If you cant see the avatar in your peripheral vision when looking at the left side of the screen you have problems. Try it. Look the left side of your post and begin reading your own post. Whats that in the corner of your eye? It's your little salior man avatar. Your are not focussed on it. But you can see it there and it is recognisable as one of your posts.
I have to shift my focus from the text in order to actually recognise it, and judging by the complaints, I'm guessing I'm not the only one.

Soft Copy
01-05-2008, 12:19 PM
Is there an option to turn off avatars? Perhaps that would be the best alternative for people like you who seem to find them distracting, while allowing them to serve their natural purpose for the rest of us who find them helpful.


Yep. In the User Control Panel go to Board Preferences and Edit Display Options

Stumps
01-05-2008, 01:21 PM
There you go, the perfect answer for people who think that avatars are distracting and may cause you to pre-judge the worth of a post's content.

Silencer83
01-05-2008, 01:31 PM
If you cant see the avatar in your peripheral vision when looking at the left side of the screen you have problems. Try it. Look the left side of your post and begin reading your own post. Whats that in the corner of your eye? It's your little salior man avatar. Your are not focussed on it. But you can see it there and it is recognisable as one of your posts.
I have to shift my focus from the text in order to actually recognise it, and judging by the complaints, I'm guessing I'm not the only one.

I agree with LegoSHAQ. Except it is fan since the old snake pi's avatar that creeps me out. However I don't want to turn off the avatars as they do help me identify the poster. Having them on the right means I can glance at them but not have them right in my line of vision whilst I read the post.

Stumps
01-05-2008, 01:38 PM
If you have to deliberately take your focus off the post to glance across at them, then it is just as easy to actually read their name at the top of the post (which is what I've now had to start doing, completely abandoning the utility of the avatars).

Dunkin' Dan
01-05-2008, 02:10 PM
I'm getting used to the avatars on the right.
The main thing that bugs me now is that the thread title is displayed above each post, and displayed in a larger font than the user name. I'd prefer it if the thread title was removed altogether, just leaving the user name in bold.
I see that post counts are displayed now as well. That in itself doesn't bother me, but the fact that I'm over 8000 makes me worry about myself!

Stumps
01-05-2008, 02:25 PM
Yeah, you must be some kind of garrulous loser to have over 8000 posts.

Dunkin' Dan
01-05-2008, 02:31 PM
Yeah, totally.

Silencer83
01-05-2008, 02:32 PM
If you have to deliberately take your focus off the post to glance across at them, then it is just as easy to actually read their name at the top of the post (which is what I've now had to start doing, completely abandoning the utility of the avatars).

Fair point, it takes less effort me to pick up the avatar in my peripheral vision with a quick glance if I'm reading multiple new posts rather than look for the name on each post. To tell you the truth it doesn't really affect me on a large scale either way but I have no problem with the avatar on the right.

curious
01-05-2008, 08:26 PM
I'm getting used to the avatars on the right.
The main thing that bugs me now is that the thread title is displayed above each post, and displayed in a larger font than the user name. I'd prefer it if the thread title was removed altogether, just leaving the user name in bold.
I see that post counts are displayed now as well. That in itself doesn't bother me, but the fact that I'm over 8000 makes me worry about myself!
Yeah DD get a life.
Spot on about the acreage of the title thread that it takes uP being redisplayed in every post.
Drink more and Duck 'n fuc....(pork) more.

BTW, Stumps.
What is it with 1920 res ? Is it a widescreen lappy?
That may in itself be a problem. That most of us may never experience. :!: :!: No ; ) emoticon available.

Daevo
01-05-2008, 08:57 PM
No heaps of emoticons....still

& now OT is borked....need to have posts cleared by a mod? wtf?

Stumps
01-05-2008, 11:48 PM
BTW, Stumps.
What is it with 1920 res ? Is it a widescreen lappy?
Oh yes. It's beautiful.

Stumps
01-05-2008, 11:48 PM
No heaps of emoticons....still

& now OT is borked....need to have posts cleared by a mod? wtf?
Skinner's quest for world domination reaches Phase 2.

Skindog the Hawk
05-05-2008, 12:10 AM
No heaps of emoticons....still

& now OT is borked....need to have posts cleared by a mod? wtf?
Skinner's quest for world domination reaches Phase 2.

I had nothing to do with that!!! Blame Teh Derek!!! :lol: 8)

gretchen
17-07-2008, 12:35 PM
instresting.