Triangle

[hendrix]

i've just read a couple of Phil Jackson's books.

Is there a book around outlining the Triangle offence?? I'd like to have a better look at it and how it all works

[Wallitron]

Tex Winter has released a book on the offense.
http://www.championshipproductions.com/ ... 00367.html (http://www.championshipproductions.com/cgi-bin/champ/BB-00367.html)

If find the Hoop Tactics web site has the best online diagrams and explainations.
http://www.cybersportsusa.com/hooptactics/triangle.asp

[Hogsbreath]

The Movie "Like Mike"

Tracy outlines the offence simply using paint. :lol:

[Lethal Vertical]

ah yeah that's one of the best parts of that movie

im currently reading "The Triple Post Offence" by tex winter

[Blind Teddy]

Slice 23 I think you are a big fan of the triangle offence.
What do you think of it???

[SLICE23]

Hendrix.....great choice the greatest TEAM offence i believe is available,
Blind Teddy thank you for your acknowledgement.
The Tex winter book is the one and only book that explains this the best there are plenty of version around on the net but Tex Winter is the moses of all basketball "o".

[hendrix]

Hendrix.....great choice the greatest TEAM offence i believe is available,
Blind Teddy thank you for your acknowledgement.
The Tex winter book is the one and only book that explains this the best there are plenty of version around on the net but Tex Winter is the moses of all basketball "o".

i've read some criticisms of the offence, the main one being, you need a star player to run it (from memory the argument was the offence takes up a lot of the shot clock and you need someone who can hit pressure shots). if anyone on here actually runs the offence, is this a legitimate point?

problme with how teams run it here, they are slow and dilberate up the court, instead of fast break and running your tranistion into the triangle whihc is how tex ran it.

its usually the teams slow transition and slow organisation of the play which eats up the shot clock

[SLICE23]

Gentlemen,
If it is trained properly there is not 1 negitive thing about it, i have used it as young as U12 rep to seniors and it is very uptempo applying transition int the triangle and shot clock never comes into it.
My problem is @ times you get a easy scores off it that the full offence does not get used.
Also you dont need a champion player the offence is a team offence everyone has a fair share of the ball and it exploits the weeker opposition player that doesnt have the defence skills to stay with your player.
I beleive the major problem is the coaches all want to run it but they dont understand it fully so when you take short cuts it will only hurt your team, it take take me a good 18 months to understand the concepts and it then takes from 6months even a year for players but if you show the wrong breakdown of it i repeat myself it will hurt you.
Sorry its a long thread but i hope it helps
Slice23

the team we play this weekend actually run some sets from the triple post offence...

should see how we go against it

*im a master at taking teams out fo the triangle

[Btdg]

The biggest concern with the triangle offence is that it takes so long to learn. Basically, its an offence based around spacing on the court, and as such its fantastic for juniors because it teaches them the most difficult fundamental skill there is - spacing and movement off the ball. But for seniors, I don't reckon its that useful. Most teams don't have 18 months to spare learning an extremely complicated offence, and at that level, don't need to. And it does take that long to learn, because if it isn't run properly it becomes very static and makes scoring difficult.

At top level, scores generally come from isolations or athleticism from very good players, or set plays (pick and roll, hand-off etc). Triangle highlights this by combining set plays with good spacing, so good players can exploit weaker defenders and create opportunities for themselves. Thats why it was so effective for Jordan, Kobe, Shaq etc - when the defence made a mistake it leaves them wide open. But I reckon any good offence can do the same thing, and there are plenty that are simpler out there - so why waste time teaching really good players the triangle, when you can just run strong-side pick and rolls (like Utah did with Stockton/Malone), or motion sets, or anything simpler.

For example - the maligned shuffle offence creates pretty much the same sort of options as triangle (except it doesn't isolate the post so well) - it starts with a couple of set moves, easily isolates good players, and creates space to exploit defensive errors. Its a lot simpler and can basically be taught in a few weeks, and doesn't completely break down if not run perfectly. Not that I think its the best offence around, but it has similar advantages to triangle, and is a lot simpler.

That said, triangle is beautiful to watch if run well, and a really good tool for teaching kids IMO. I just think it isn't worth the effort - and whilst I can see why others would disagree, thats just my opinion as a coach and player.