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30-03-2005, 03:23 PM
Ever since I started playing, I was taught Triple threat, Defensive stance, setting a screen, boxing out..

i was taught the footwork and what to do with my legs, body etc..

thats too much..

Im going to coach a junior team this season and im going to implement something ive been thinlking of for a while now..

Basketball Stance

it will be the very first thing I teach...

because everything you do in bball is in the same stance, why ahve triple threat and defensive stance, why not jsut have Basketball Stance..

when you set a screen you are simply jump stopping into defensive stance except your arms are in a dif place, when you box out it is simply a pivot from defensive stance so I am jsut going to teach basketball stance, and make sure everyone has it done pat, and make sure they know every single thing we do on court comes from basketball stance...

Everything!

By teaching them this first, I am hoping it will make teaching defensive stance, setting screensand sealing, triple threat, receiving and squaring up, and boxing out much more efficent:

Triple threat = Basketball Stance with the ball
Defensive stance = Basketball Stance without the ball
Boxing out = reverse Pivoting and walking backwards in basketball stance
Recieving and Squaring up = catch the ball square to the passer(jump to the ball) in basketball stance, then pivot to face the hoop in basketball stance.
Setting a screen = run to the spot, jump stop into basketball stance.
Sealing = after teammate has used the screen, pivot ala boxing out* into basketball stance.

* Box out, pivoting to keep you between basket and opposition
seal, pivoting to get yourself between ball carrier and your defender!!

given time and proper teaching, i tinhk that by teaching basketball stance I can make all of these skills which are essential to the game alot easier to learn then what alot of the kids who struggle with them have been trying to learn!!!

What do you guys tihnk of my idea to try and simplify these skills and make teaching them more effiecent, also any ideas and suggestions that you may have are welcomed as any welcome can be!!!

Coachpete
30-03-2005, 07:16 PM
You're on the right track there. When Gannon Baker was out here recently he talked a lot about "Universal Basketball Stance".....which is pretty much what you're talking about.

30-03-2005, 08:05 PM
You're on the right track there. When Gannon Baker was out here recently he talked a lot about "Universal Basketball Stance".....which is pretty much what you're talking about.

yeah i knew that I couldnt of been the only person who thought of it...

Franklin
30-03-2005, 10:53 PM
I, too, didn't know about Gannon Baker or your philosophy, expertise, but that is just what I've been doing with my kids. They were only 8-10 year olds when I started so I didn't bother with "triple threat" or anything, just a good jump-stop type stance.

Now you've given me a name I can use: "basketball stance" ... I don't see any copyright symbol so I'm free to use it?

30-03-2005, 11:00 PM
yeah, use it as much as you like!!!!

Franklin
30-03-2005, 11:10 PM
cheers, Ex. And when I've coached my team to a State title, I'll give you a mention in my acceptance speech!

30-03-2005, 11:48 PM
tha *yawn* nks

CoachRoar
31-03-2005, 12:42 AM
I agree with a universal stance. I dont agree with aspects of what coaches teach in terms of where players position the ball when they are in the tripple threat but thats for another discussion. Some tools to teach the "basketball stance" I have never used this term its a good one.

Tell players to stand with their feel close together and up straight. Get the guy nearest them to try and push them over. Now tell players to stand with their feet shoulder width apart, one foot slightly in front of other and bend their knees and tense their core (dont forget the core). Now try and push them over - its alot harder. This means the player is better balanced and stronger.

Another one is red light, green light. I even have used this with U18s. Call green light and the players have to sprint. Call red light and they have to stop in the basketball stance from a jumpstop with out taking any extra steps or losing their balance. Do this a few times then get them to use a stride stop. Then add in a jump shot action from the stance. Then instead of a jumpshort make them take 3 slides like a defensive close out. This teaches players balance and the importance and universal significance of the stance. Never underestimate the importance of core strength and players learning how to recruit their core muscles. THis is an incredibally complex subject. Look up Google words such as "Core strength, transverse abdominus and core stability". I think this aspect is the most important aspect for basketball especially as you get older.

31-03-2005, 08:54 AM
one thing I do all the time when coaching a new team, get them into their defensive stance and then push them over.. its usually prety easy, and then we work with their stance from their....

RandyOrton
04-04-2005, 12:31 AM
one thing I do all the time when coaching a new team, get them into their defensive stance and then push them over.. its usually prety easy, and then we work with their stance from their....

Player Abuse?? just kidding - i know what you mean - you are teaching them the importance of having a wider more balanced/stable stance.

Back to the topic though! - Triple Threat stance is basically your defensive stance with the ball...

Steph
09-04-2005, 11:39 AM
I reckon it's awesome that you are teaching kids this basketball stance!!

however i would make sure they know what you mean when you say triple threat, defensive stance etc. just so that when another coach at a camp tells them to get into a certain stance, they still know what one it is and understand what the coach means..

the basketball stance is a really good idea though, good work!

Stigma
13-04-2005, 02:51 PM
Ex,

I know that when I'm coaching, the first thing I tell anyone is that basically the whole game is played from that stance. One of the coaches I assisted always got the entire team to go into stance whenever they were on the court whenever he was talking to them.

I went and saw Gannon Baker as well, and he was really into all that stuff. Another coach from the States, Fred Litzenberger, spoke about a college basketball team who as soon as training started, had to be on court in stance and "pattering" (I assume everyone knows what that is). This was when the assistant coach was taking them, and before the head coach even walked on the court. So, unless the team was running or shooting, they spent the entire training in stance "pattering". I think it might be a bit of an urban legend to scare little basketball kiddies into behaving, but I'm sure it's the dream of every coach to have a team that dedicated. Not that I'm suggesting it for under 8s-10s. They can probably hold their stance longer than I can. :D