Basket scored at wrong end

[safetyboy]

I have searched and searched, but I can't find the thread about this one.

Tonight in our game, one of our players (you know who you are) pulled down a great rebound and put it straight back up for the two. Unfortunately it was at the wrong end. Easy mistake, it was just after half time, it is not the first time someone on our team has gone strong to the wrong hole! :shock:

Can anyone tell me what the consensus was, point me to the appropriate rule and give me any interpretations they know of on it?

The bench scored two for the other team. We got done by 13 in the end, so it made little difference, but you never know when it is going to be close.

SB

[Franklin]

I raised the first question about this after it happened to my kids team and the referees ruled no score after the coach of the other team quite vehemently argued that it was no score and that the rules had changed (it was her team that scored in the wrong basket).

The convincing argument (with legislative support) that I got on this site was that yes, if you deliberately score in the worng basket, it is a tech and the basket doesn't count. However, being disorienated isn't considered deliberate so if that is the case, it's 2 points to the captain of the other team (ie, if Blue scores in the worong basket, it's 2 points to Red).

The referee at my local association backed this up too.

So, in your case, the bench got it right

[Skindog the Hawk]

This is one of those (expletive deleted) rules that FIBA keeps changing every four years.... :twisted:

From the FIBA casebook (www.fiba.org (http://www.fiba.org))

Article 16 (Goal: When made and its value)

A3 (a) accidentally (b) deliberately scores a field goal in the Team A basket. Shall two points be awarded to team B?

Answer
(a) Yes - points credited to team B captain
(b) No - a violation has occurred. A throw-in shall be awarded to team B at the free throw line extended near the team A basket

All depends on your interpretation of accidental as well ;)

[Trent]

(a) Yes - points credited to team B captain

Article 7.7 - When the captain leaves the playing court the coach shall inform an official of the number of the player who will act as captain of the court.

The points do not automatically go to the court captain named on the scoresheet if he/she is not on the court. This was brought in so that a player who is not on the court is credited with points. Kinda helps stats out.

There was an incident at a SEABL game where the defending player appeared on a rebound to tip the ball into his own basket, as the scorers where scrambling to find the captain on the scoresheet the trailing ref ran passed and said 'give it to white 15'.

[Rachel]

:lol: :oops: :oops: Thanks Clay!

Not only was the best bloody rebound I've made all season, it was the best bloody shot too! :P

BTW, sorry team ... :) - I'll just ride the idea for all it's worth that it was just after 1/2 time so it's not AS bad ;)

Sooooo, instead of standing there embarrassed before running back up court getting ready to [try] and play D (only to turn and see the rest of the team, looking suitably unimpressed w/hands on hips in the key... ;)) perhaps I really should have tried to argue it was a deliberate ploy to help out the other team - I was, after all, only following the lead of the esteemed referees...?! :wink:

P.S: I'll go with what our star player last night said, when he jokingly referred to it as an incident that sparked the team ... ahhh, rest of the team ;)

[Keegan]

This happened with Lauren Jackson in the WNBA a couple of years ago. I believe they awarded it to the player who was closest to the basket at the time.

[Homer]

The rule is 2 points to the court captain.

If it is in a contested rebound situation and a number of players, both offensive and defensive are attempting to rebound, the ref may choose an offensive player that appeared to have got a finger tip on it.

[Trent]

The rule is 2 points to the court captain.

If it is in a contested rebound situation and a number of players, both offensive and defensive are attempting to rebound, the ref may choose an offensive player that appeared to have got a finger tip on it.

I like your choice of words Homer, 'appeared'!

[the_referee]

I've had many arguments about this and have been meaning to ask someone above me im pretty sure F.I.B.A doesn't interpretate stupidity as accidentle. Ill find out for you all.

[revolution]

I've had many arguments about this and have been meaning to ask someone above me im pretty sure F.I.B.A doesn't interpretate stupidity as accidentle. Ill find out for you all.
Thanks ... we'll wait here for you. :lol: :lol:

You might want to start with the 2004 FIBA Rules Interpretations - there might be something in there. :wink:

[the_referee]

I've had many arguments about this and have been meaning to ask someone above me im pretty sure F.I.B.A doesn't interpretate stupidity as accidentle. Ill find out for you all.
Thanks ... we'll wait here for you. :lol: :lol:

You might want to start with the 2004 FIBA Rules Interpretations - there might be something in there. :wink:

Probaly a good start :lol:

[Bobby]

Keegan,

The NBA/WNBA and FIBA rules are different. FIBA says court captain gets the points, while the NBA gives the points to the closest player to the shooter.

However, some scorers will give the points honestly to the player who was the last to touch the ball on the scoring team. That would reward the player -- if Blue 7 shoots, the ball is accidentally tipped by Red 4 into their own basket, then Blue 7 should deserve the basket, mark it as an own-goal. Some who score soccer and basketball are known to give own goal credit to the scoring team whose player was the last to touch the ball.

[Southern Joe]

,.... About a decade ago it happened in a Kings / Nth Melb . match ...... a few players were bobbling the ball on their fingertips reaching for the rebound , when Larry sengstock accidentally put the ball back in ... 2 pts to the Kings .... Rodney O discreetly said , " thanks Larry " :lol:

[Bobby]

,.... About a decade ago it happened in a Kings / Nth Melb . match ...... a few players were bobbling the ball on their fingertips reaching for the rebound , when Larry sengstock accidentally put the ball back in ... 2 pts to the Kings .... Rodney O discreetly said , " thanks Larry " :lol:

Now that's a situation where I would call the player who was the last for the Kings to touch the ball as the goal scorer.

[Southern Joe]

... I think a kings player did get credited for it ... after O commented .. no -one reacted .

[Homer]

the ref may choose an offensive player that appeared to have got a finger tip on it.

This Kings situation is exactly what I wrote above. Give the points to the Kings player that appeared to touch it around the same time as Sengstock.