SEABL Women [Archive] - Page 2

cheapseats

02-12-2009, 09:01 AM

Butler is ex Kilsyth junior. It is 3 non Kilsyth players (just don't look too hard at teh men's roster of the years) Although Bulter is an interesting pick up for a team that is know for beng mostly guards.

See Cunningham is changing teams again. Another coach that thinks they can make something of her talents. How many changes of teams is this over the years ?

Casein

02-12-2009, 10:37 AM

See Cunningham is changing teams again. Another coach that thinks they can make something of her talents. How many changes of teams is this over the years ?

If ever Cunningham was going to "perform" it will be this season.

Harvey and her go a long long way back. It was her state performances with him as coach that made Browns eyes light up at the AIS. She has rarely got back to that standard.

As long as he still has the "touch" to get into her head she will be a monster this year, and rememeber his mentor at the senior level was Foxy, he wasn't to bad. :-)

Fingers crossed he can get the "cattle" to play to their potential.

Everyone hates Nunawading, its always a good season when they are up and everyone is trying to smash them, hopefully they will respond. :-)

opalswatcher

02-12-2009, 10:39 AM

hunt, camino and francis to sandringham
gabe richards to bendigo
Ashby and Bishop to return to ballarat

cheapseats

02-12-2009, 01:21 PM

Even if only some of the gossip is correct there will be many strong line ups for the 2010 season which means the finals race will be very close. Bring on March

imported_maxiwalker

02-12-2009, 03:04 PM

butler and manou have signed at kilsyth
Todhunter and probst at dandenong
cunningham at Nunawading
Harring signed at Bendigo
Tanya Smith signed at Ballarat

Tanya will not be playing @ ballarat!!

Loz

02-12-2009, 04:34 PM

I do recall about 3 years ago didnt Knox have basketball administrator of the year (or something like that) but choose not to renew him/got rid of him?

As the person in question I can tell you that my sacking occurred in April last year, although it does sometimes seem like a much longer time ago. And yes like many others I was told that they wanted a new direction. :)

cheapseats

03-12-2009, 02:17 PM

patm

03-12-2009, 08:51 PM

So what are you asking?
Or are you telling?

In the end it is always for the leader, or the leadership, to decide the direction of an organisation.
And that will be the direction, until the leader, or the leadership, changes, or changes their mind.
How can it be any other way?

So the change is not the problem, as I see it.
The question is, does the leader, or do the leadership, truly present the interests of their organisation?
Now if it is a private business, and you have put up your own money, then you are entitled to lead it any way you want, into oblivion even, if your pockets are deep enough, or you can afford to live in poverty.
But if you are leading an organisation on behalf of it’s stakeholders, then your leadership should represent those stakeholders, not your own self interests, and those of your family, and those of your mates.

And that’s where I reckon basketball lets itself down time and time again.
Because it has nothing in place to police and enforce whether that is happening in it’s geographic representatives entrusted to deliver the sport of basketball to the grass roots communities – the associations.
And in my experience this is going on in a significant way, and all the time (I am not saying at all associations - but it is happening all the time at some associations I am involved with - but I am not saying all that I am involved with ;-) ).
Maybe it is also happening in BA and BV (for me), and that is the core problem.
I had the pleasure of coming across my local association president only yesterday at the local $2 shop and he didn’t want to talk to me at all about how he was representing my interests at our local basketball association, or on the board of BV for that matter.

rondo

03-12-2009, 11:05 PM

Seems to be a "one excuse fits all" line doesn't it. We are going in a new direction. Does that mean a club is saying for the past x amount of years we have been stuffing everything up and only now will we make some changes ??

If a new direction is the Trans Tasman Netball League then I'll accept that, otherwise its just a cop out

opalswatcher

07-12-2009, 06:21 AM

Cambage to frankston
Pardon to launceston
Cunningham to Nunawading (already reported but confirmed on the weekend)
Jarry to Nunawading
Carly wilson to Nunawading

imported_tjh085

07-12-2009, 09:06 AM

Pardon to launceston

Do you mean Parsons or Pardon to Launceston??

Observer

07-12-2009, 11:43 AM

As the person in question I can tell you that my sacking occurred in April last year, although it does sometimes seem like a much longer time ago. And yes like many others I was told that they wanted a new direction. :)

Well you are in good company as there have been thousands of sackings because an organisation wanted to go in a different direction. Last week there were two new inductees, Malcomn Turnbull and Nathan Rees.

jsballer

07-12-2009, 01:03 PM

Good to see Knox inviting their U/ 14 girls down to SEABL D-League Women's tryouts.

the voice #31

07-12-2009, 06:22 PM

Good to see Knox inviting their U/ 14 girls down to SEABL D-League Women's tryouts.

Seriously??

the voice #31

07-12-2009, 06:24 PM

So Nuna will get Cunningham, Wilson, Jarry to add to O'Hea (or Europe??), Brentnall, Davis, McCann and Zoe Carr??

Should SEABL just give them the title now?

Melb Wildcat

07-12-2009, 07:25 PM

That team would almost beat the Perth Lynx, actually I think it would.

Lolly_snack

07-12-2009, 08:54 PM

So Nuna will get Cunningham, Wilson, Jarry to add to O'Hea (or Europe??), Brentnall, Davis, McCann and Zoe Carr??

Should SEABL just give them the title now?

Word is Carr not playing, O'Hea apparently not back and McCann heading o/s next year? So will just be Cunningham, Wilson, Jarry, Brentnall and Davis?

So probably not just yet!!

cheapseats

08-12-2009, 08:41 AM

The other problem with that Nunawading plan is Jarry, Wilson and O'Hea would all be restricted. The other fact that is being overlooked before you give them the title, the last two years the most heavily talented team on paper have lost the grand finals. Just ask Mike and Heath.

The finals is going to be a very wide open race this coming season.

ghost who walks

08-12-2009, 12:06 PM

From what is going around Nuna - Ohea not returning, Carr - Eltham Big V, Macleod - Europe, Davis - Returning Home to Wang and McCann going O/S mid year.

By the looks of things this will be a new look team - with some D league coming thru and a few of the U18.

Add this to the rumours if true - Wilson, Jarry , Cunningham. Will that be compedative enough? Especially if Wilson will miss a chunk due to Opals?

opalswatcher

09-12-2009, 06:42 AM

cambage to frankston
Gabe Richards to Bendigo
Ashby to Ballarat

BRING BACK THE BIGS!!!!

cheapseats

09-12-2009, 08:25 AM

Bendigo with Harring and Richards have some serious size now.
Frankston will be very tough with Cambage (R) in uniform.
Ballarat with Ashby, Bishop (R) ?? and maybe Lewis (R) ??
Launceston with Milner (R), Glaubitz and Parsons
Nunawading with Jarry (R), Cunningham & Wilson (R)
Albury have Wallbutton (R) & Edmundson (R)
Kilsyth have Butler (R)
Knox return Fryters and Graham (R)
Brisbane ???? usual suspects
Hobart ?????
Dandenong have Probst
Sandringham have Hunt and Camino (R)

Question is where will Manou, Tolo (R) and Francis (R) end up ?

opalswatcher

09-12-2009, 11:35 AM

manou signed at kilsyth
francis at sandringham

jsballer

09-12-2009, 11:46 AM

Knox- Cassie Smith

Mixingitup

09-12-2009, 01:00 PM

Good to see Knox inviting their U/ 14 girls down to SEABL D-League Women's tryouts.

This must be part of the "new direction".... look forward to seeing how they do... Great work...

ghost who walks

09-12-2009, 02:18 PM

Bishop to Rockhampton with Romeo

Cant see Sandy fitting in Hunt, Camino and Francis - All 3 would be restricted

Dandy chasing Jarry / Burston

Frankston still awaiting Kunick from AIS

opalswatcher

09-12-2009, 03:59 PM

think u might see a country team with a restricted spot might snaffle Kunek.

cheapseats

10-12-2009, 01:55 PM

Not sold on the Manou to Kilsyth idea. I think she has study in Sydney.

don't believe the gossip of Abrams back to ballarat either, think someone is having a chuckle at that one.

opalswatcher

10-12-2009, 02:41 PM

Manou flying in and out of sydney!

Melb Wildcat

10-12-2009, 02:46 PM

Maybe the 'Swinburne' Kilsyth Cobras might provide her with an option or two? lol

cheapseats

10-12-2009, 03:10 PM

If she does fly in and out then I think it can impact on the team.

theFraudulentone

10-12-2009, 03:19 PM

she is a solid player, but it she really worth flyin her in an out?

Melb Wildcat

10-12-2009, 03:48 PM

Sounds very costly to do, especially when they didnt do the same for Werner (in relation to Cairns). Different situation, but still relevant.

theFraudulentone

10-12-2009, 03:55 PM

yeah...but then again nunawading did it last year with veal...

2010 draw doesnt look too bad...and if all these wnbl players are comin on board i really cant wait for the first round of the season! gonna be some epic contests!

cheapseats

11-12-2009, 11:28 AM

Knox announced they have signed Fryters and Graham for 2010 and 2011 seasons. No doubt the first of many signings for them.

opalswatcher

11-12-2009, 11:34 AM

Ballarat have been queit. Who is kim looking at?
Besides Abrhams

cheapseats

11-12-2009, 12:17 PM

dont be shocked to see a Canberra big playing with the Miners

Melb Wildcat

11-12-2009, 01:28 PM

Tolo? Would be a very good replacement for Francis.

opalswatcher

11-12-2009, 02:16 PM

i believe it is bishop!!

Cassie smith from logan WNBL to knox

jsballer

11-12-2009, 02:24 PM

are 2 year contracts the norm in seabl?

Melb Wildcat

11-12-2009, 02:45 PM

Could they get both Bishop and Tolo?

cheapseats

14-12-2009, 11:48 AM

Possible, but highly unlikely. With Ashby returning they might go one big and one guard. Lewis was very good for them last season so they might look to her again.

opalswatcher

14-12-2009, 12:29 PM

abrams has signed with them. so there is one restricted spot gone.

opalswatcher

14-12-2009, 02:22 PM

some big news expected out of Knox and nunawading this week. WOW.

opalswatcher

16-12-2009, 07:39 AM

Carly Wilson Signed at Nunawading last night.

Lolly_snack

16-12-2009, 08:45 AM

Dee Butler confirmed on Kilsyth's home page

http://www.kilsythbasketball.com.au/index.php?id=21&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=496&tx_ttnews[backPid]=210&cHash=25266935ec

cheapseats

16-12-2009, 03:35 PM

SEABL website has announcements of :
Camino and Francis at Sandringham
Butler at Kilsyth
Harrington, haring and Richards at Bendigo

The Grenade

17-12-2009, 04:53 PM

RAIDERS SECURE YOUNG GUN TRIO

http://www.knoxbasketball.com.au/show_news_item.asp?news=307

the voice #31

17-12-2009, 06:57 PM

RAIDERS SECURE YOUNG GUN TRIO

http://www.knoxbasketball.com.au/show_news_item.asp?news=307

This had better not be what this some big news expected out of Knox and nunawading this week. WOW. is all about. It's not that big if it is...

opalswatcher

18-12-2009, 06:35 AM

nope nuna signing was carly wilson.

knox info still to come

apparantly big new to come out today or monday from both Ballarat, Bendigo and Frankston

the voice #31

19-12-2009, 12:38 PM

nope nuna signing was carly wilson.

knox info still to come

apparantly big new to come out today or monday from both Ballarat, Bendigo and Frankston

Well i'll keep waiting then. Wilson is exciting!!!

upnorth

19-12-2009, 07:37 PM

Well i'll keep waiting then. Wilson is exciting!!!

they're not going to sign Marion Jones are they? Saw that it's a possibility that she will be down playing in AUS

the voice #31

19-12-2009, 09:17 PM

they're not going to sign Marion Jones are they? Saw that it's a possibility that she will be down playing in AUS

Got a link there AG?

opalswatcher

19-12-2009, 10:09 PM

it was discussed.

i see a past wnbl mvp has signed to play in the country. DOnt know if it is ballarat, bendigo or albury yet. Anyone have an idea?

upnorth

20-12-2009, 02:02 PM

Got a link there AG?

The article discusses the possibility of her suiting up for Bulleen. I wonder if she may hang about and play SEABL afterwards?? I have no idea, but it would fit the description of BIG news.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/basketball/disgraced-olympian-marion-jones-may-play-basketball--for-bulleen-20091218-l4l3.html

cheapseats

21-12-2009, 10:10 AM

very big risk if someone was to go down that path. Outside of the obvious media spotlight, it would be a huge risk and not a cheap one.

With most teams now finishing up their player rosters, we can really start to get excited about a much tougher comp in 2010.

Melb Wildcat

21-12-2009, 12:08 PM

Albury still no replacement yet for Duck? Could be a long season unless they get a PG soon.

cheapseats

21-12-2009, 01:26 PM

How would the Bandits go chasing up on a Lorenzini (ex Syd) or getting a fringe WNBL guard to run the show for them for the season. Might not be a Duck, but certainly would help. Look at Hurst's back up in Canberra or maybe sneak one of the seldomly seen Bendigo point guards away for a season. (meaning Bendigo's point position is dominanted by one or two in both WNBL & SEABL)

Melb Wildcat

21-12-2009, 03:53 PM

Obviously Todhunter would be the perfect fit there as she has played with most of the Albury girls before, but think she might study in Melbourne and might already of signed with Dandy anyway.

I just expected Albury to have the Duck replacement sorted by now as they knew she would be leaving even before the past season ended. Yeah if they can get a back-up PG paying in the WNBL they might go OK. I just think all the other teams have improved so far, but Albury have not. They also lack a bit of height next season atm.

cheapseats

22-12-2009, 08:05 AM

there are some big loses from teams this season and not sure who will replace them.
Albury certainly need to find someone that can fill Duck's role or they are in for a long season.
Kilsyth are quiet on teh recruiting front when you know they have lost Parsons, Papavs and Denson.

Still awaiting this big news from either Knox or Nunawading. Any further word on that ?

opalswatcher

22-12-2009, 11:10 AM

WOW - Hibbert to Bendigo!!! That is a huge recruiting coup for them.

They will be tough this year.

Melb Wildcat

22-12-2009, 12:48 PM

I think Kilsyth might be just trying to build a team and then get an import/restricted player to compliment the team's needs after that. Moffat is pretty under-rated player as well. I rated her overall as the teams 2nd best player last season after Denson. Manou and Butler will be handy players at SEABL level. An Ashley Lindsey type player as an import would be a very good player as they lacked size last season ---not sure they could afford her though.

I dont believe Parsons and Papavs will be huge losses. Papavs defence will be definately missed, but both shot the ball very poorly last season. The Cobras bench will be very suspect though, as with the mens team so far.

imported_tjh085

22-12-2009, 01:10 PM

Dont think they are going to miss Papavs defence??? are you getting mixed up with Parsons defence??

Any player the quality of Papavs and Parsons are going to be missed from any SEABL team. You cant just take a two time Golden Hands winner and Defensive player of the year and a girl that can shoot like Papavs out of a team and there not be a difference to the team.

Melb Wildcat

22-12-2009, 01:48 PM

The Golden Hands winner also shot 30%fg which is very very poor. Just because the stats sheet didnt record a turnover, it still means the opposition got the ball back (most times) after her miss. To me this is the the same as a turnover as the ball ended up in the other teams hands. If a player shot 45% from the field and won the Golden Hands award it would have some merit, but 30%? Nooooo.

Papavs shot poorly as well at 35% fg. For someone who you say is a good shooter the stats do not back this up, even in womens basketball where fg percentage is usually lower than the mens game. 35% is below par.

No I rate Papavs as a better defensive player than Parsons. I think Papavs gets much tougher assignments than Parsons. Hard to compare different positions anyway as require different skills.

As I said I rated Moffat as the Cobras 2nd best last season and I saw them play heaps.

imported_tjh085

22-12-2009, 01:59 PM

Wow! you rate Papavs as a better defensive player?? I think your on your own on that one.

Papavs hardly played last year, your right though about her shooting when is on its really on but when its not on then there is nothing else in her game. Will say though that she hardly played last year cause if injury so dont read to much into stats, they dont show all the 1% things that matter.

mama k

22-12-2009, 02:23 PM

cheapseats

22-12-2009, 02:27 PM

WOW Melb Wildcat - in a few words you have lost all credit as someone that might know anything of women's basketball.
Parsons has been a dominant force in the league the past two seasons winning golden hands awards, defensive player of the year and U21 player of the year, she averages great rebounding numbers and although you worry about shooting percentages few others see it as the only thing to rate players on.
Papavs suffered several injuries in the 2009 season and could not reproduce her 2008 form. But a quality player at SEABL level for any team to have.
I do agree Moffatt had a very good 2009 season and looked like she liked the extra time.
You are kidding yourself if you think Denson, Parsons and Papavs leaving is not going to leave a massive hole in the team.
As for recruiting Butler, think you will find the Kilsyth guards have owned her the past few seasons. Manou well lets just wait and she is she is playing first.
You general comments are good, but dont attack quality players of the SEABL league. Next you will be saying Ashby, Glaubitz, Burns and Tan are too old. You need to look past some shooting percentages to see the value players bring to their teams.

I might be wrong, but from where I sit more people should embrace what players bring to their teams and forget about the rubbish stats. What coaches truly care if a player like Parsons of Papavs shoots at 30% or 39% ?

Melb Wildcat

22-12-2009, 02:48 PM

I probably watched Lady Cobras play about 20 times in the past 2 seasons. Im not attacking any player ---just stating the stats. Where did I attack a player? I think you lost any credibility by saying a player shooting 30% is good and what a coach wants...WTF? In any other league a player shooting that poor would not be in the league. Cannot believe you can even justify a player shooting that poorly. Maybe when you play you are happy to shoot it 30 times to get and brag about getting 20 points in your local league, but end up losing the game.

Parsons gets her rebound a lot off her own miss whch might inflate her rebound stats--why isnt she in the WNBL this season?

Denson being an import should generally be replaceable by another import. Whether the new import is as good is yet to be seen. She will be a loss I admit that as she was one of the best players in the league. I never said Denson wouldnt be missed, but think being restricted is easy to replace.

imported_tjh085

22-12-2009, 03:06 PM

Why are you so obsessed with the stats???
Im sure any coach in the league would kill to have Parsons in their own team.

The ultimate coachs and team player.

Papavs pre-season was massively unsettled by injury and that never helps anyone.

But you might want to make it to a few more games than 20 over 2 years before you pass judgement.

Leave it to the people that are there every week.

cheapseats

22-12-2009, 03:33 PM

Well Melb Wildcat, you may have been at 20 games in the past two years, but judging off your comments on the team you didn't watch many of them hard enough. Were you trashing these same players ability's (or should I say shooting percentages) when they won a premiership ? As for saying that restricted players are easily replaced, then you dont know the value a quality play has on a program I am sorry.

I am not sure what level you have coached at but I can tell you that if you did coach at SEABL level you would recruit Parsons and Papavs if you got the chance.

The thing that has been over looked is two long time Kilsyth juniors has left the club for some reason.

Melb Wildcat

22-12-2009, 03:40 PM

Um if you knew anything 20 games over 2 years is quite a lot of Cobra games to have attended considering the amount of games they play. I think that is more than enough to pass judgement on a player. I doubt many people would have seen more than 20 lady Cobra games over 2 years (excluding players and coaches). Its more than enough to get an indictaion of a player I think.

I am at a SEABL game or two or three every week. I even get coaches introduce themselves to me Im there so often lol.

Im not obsessed with the stats, just saying 30% is very poor. Your the one who is trying to say she is a Golden Hands winner which is an award that doesnt take into account a players misses that end up in the oppositions hands. Next year if cambage, tolo, francis are in the league if you shoot that poorly you will get punished as they wont give up many rebounds.

imported_tjh085

22-12-2009, 03:45 PM

Your original thing was that Kilsyth wont miss them!

Ok im not going to bother with it anymore, fools argue with fools.

Im so glad that the coaches say hi to you! Thats awesome! I wish one day someone would say hi to me, it would just make me feel sooo special and wanted! Ohhh I dream of the day!

Might go hang out at a stadium now until someone says hi to me!

Melb Wildcat

22-12-2009, 05:20 PM

opalswatcher

22-12-2009, 07:25 PM

am i the only one thinking the Hibbert signing to Bendigo is Big???

mama k

22-12-2009, 07:40 PM

I said that they will not miss Papavs and parsons. They have been replaced by 2 players who are doing OK in one of the best WNBL teams. Papavs doesnt even get court time in a WNBL that is struggling and Parsons isnt even in WNBL anymore.

Denson, depending on how good the new import/restricted player is, shouldnt be missed. Im sure the Kilsyth coach has a few players in mind as well.

My point is its good that coaches acknowledge the people that attend SEABL games often. Does it make me feel good and important? Yeah I must admit it does.

No point hanging at the stadium until at least january as thats when teams start training ----you should know that! No wonder no one says hi to you.

Just a quick question - have you actually watched the whole games or just the second halves before the mens games??

Also the two (unrestricted) players are being replaced by at least one (restricted) player. So they should post better numbers!! But who's going to replace the unrestricted players?

Seeing as you see so many games - why do you think they both left the club?? What whispers have you heard??

An import like Denson - who won the MVP (I think, didn't she??) might be difficult to replace, don't you think?? Or what have you heard why she's not coming back??

With regards to playing WNBL this season, didn't someone say earlier that Papavs was plagued with injuries this SEABL season, so maybe that has a link to it. And why isn't Parsons playing - maybe Maher likes bringing in his "own" players??

MiSs_UnDaZtOoD

22-12-2009, 09:02 PM

am i the only one thinking the Hibbert signing to Bendigo is Big???

i think its massive, they are certainly a loaded team now and would have to be early favourites!

Melb Wildcat

22-12-2009, 09:30 PM

So Parsons isnt playing in the WNBL because Maher likes having his own players? When did he take control all of the other WNBL teams? If she was good enough she would be playing.

The previous season to last season I admit I watched the last half of most of the female teams games (but also did watch a few full games). However last season I started to enjoy the female game more and watched about 12 full LadyCobra games. I wasnt able to go to any Lady Cobra games outside of melbourne (but did with the men).

My guess is Papavs might of left to play at Dandenong for obvious reasons. It would definately be beneficial to her to play in the Dandenong ABA team. Papavs was injured very early in the season, but my logic is if you play then there are no excuses.

Parsons I have no idea, but maybe just needed a change. I try to stay away from rumours as if you believe everything you hear (esp at kilsyth and Knox) then there would be a lot of bs being told.

With the new coach Im not sure if Denson is in her plans yet or not. She may return, she may not. Katy Werner wasnt a bad player off the bench but still took up a restricted player position in this role - she could also be replaced by a good WNBL player.

Is Deanne Butler a restricted player? I know she has Kilsyth junior background (using the Herbert ruling) so could be called a local.

imported_tjh085

23-12-2009, 07:26 AM

So to be a good player you have to play in the WNBL??
Parsons would have to be close to the best player in SEABL not playing in the WNBL, a damn good player to have in your team and even better that she is not restricted.

In my opinion she is more than good enough the be a decent WNBL player, she has had some of the worst luck imaginable. Been signed twice and through no fault of her own it didnt work out.

But your right that you dont have any idea about it.

cheapseats

23-12-2009, 07:50 AM

Denson not returning to Kilsyth, word is not required by coach. Look for her to pop up somewhere else. IMO Parsons certainly good enough to sit on a WNBL bench. Butler is restricted.

Bendigo are certainly placing themselves in the top bracket of teams with their line up. Just be a matter of how they play together.

MWC - I take it you spoke to mostly men's coaches then. What coaches did you find friendly ? I am guessing you approached them in the post game functions.

Still awaiting Knox and Nunawading's big signings.

patm

23-12-2009, 08:30 AM

Bendigo are certainly placing themselves in the top bracket of teams with their line up. Just be a matter of how they play together.
That is a very good point.

MWC - I take it you spoke to mostly men's coaches then. What coaches did you find friendly ? I am guessing you approached them in the post game functions.
Not sure what this frenzied attack by a few on MWC is all about? - bad blood? - isn't everyone entitled to their opinion on a public forum?

Still awaiting Knox and Nunawading's big signings.
You have mentioned this a couple of times. But Carly Wilson was already nominated as the big one for the spooks.

Melb Wildcat

23-12-2009, 08:56 AM

The question of to be regarded as a good player you have to be in the WNBL is tough to answer. You could say yes, but also argue no as the money offered by WNBL clubs isnt going to make many bench players move interstate to take up the opportunity. My point with Parsons is that she is young (won a few awards -youth player, golden hands) so to not be in the WNBL with someone kind of says something. I agree she is a good ABA player but with the amount of WNBL talent still available I dont see it as a big loss. Parsons being a local product of Kilsyth is the only loss, but these days the SEABL seems to be a semi professional league and local players will play elsewhere more in the future. I think the days of local juniors playing at their local association's ABA team are numbered IMO.

Chambers coming in can only attract good players with her background. Id like to see her target a tall like Ashley Lindsay or Danielle Campbell as i think the SEABL will be dominated by the tall girls this season and Kilsyth had Denson out of position at centre last season as they lacked height. I am surprised with Parsons leaving after Chambers appointment though, as thought she would be a good coach for her. Kilsyth's win/loss record over the past 2 seasons has also not been great despite the SEABL championship.

I generally talk to the female team coaches. The two I relate to the best are Anderson at Knox and Ken at Albury. Might be that they are both young (similar age to me) though as well.

ghost who walks

06-01-2010, 01:13 PM

So with the new year starting and the recruitment heating up - what's the news?

Still awaiting the big news coming out of Knox, Frankston and Nunawading?

Bendigo at this stage definately would be flag fancies - thier roster is almost better than their WNBL with the exception of Kristy!

No teams seem to be williing to give away to much at this stage - just awaiting the feeding frenzy!

Melb Wildcat

06-01-2010, 06:10 PM

I think you will find most associations are closed for Xmas/New Year break. Give it 2 weeks and the news will be coming out quickly.

Melb Wildcat

18-01-2010, 11:15 AM

Ellie manou has officially signed with Kilsyth - news everyone knew for a while but not official until now. Cobras lacked height last season and she is a great signing especially with the amount of talented centres in the womens league for next season.

Add an import to the lady cobras team and they are looking stronger than last season.

the voice #31

18-01-2010, 01:38 PM

Good signing. Will be pretty good at this level.

cheapseats

20-01-2010, 08:31 AM

Personally I would be shocked if Kilsyth sign an import, after all they let Denson go. I think it will be Australian based players only.

Knox and Nunawading have been very quiet of late. Any word on them as they are bound to pull off a couple of big recruits before the season starts?

jsballer

20-01-2010, 09:06 AM

Surely Knox will sign another tall to help out the injury prone Emily Fryters?
This season is shaping up to be one of the strongest in the womens comp- can't wait for it to get started.

Melb Wildcat

20-01-2010, 12:52 PM

i think you might be right about the female team NOT signing an import. Its a shame Denson isnt returning as with their new signings she could have dominated this season not having to play centre. Denson was let go as didnt fit into the new coaches plans so still a small chance of an another import being signed.

As for Knox Im guessing Dunlap will be back but have not heard anything. Her and Fryters combined pretty well, especially on the rebounds.

Still hve not heard anything from the Lady bandits in regards to signing a PG to replace Duck. Has Todhunter definately signed with dandy?

jsballer

20-01-2010, 02:18 PM

The word from Knox is that they opted not to offer Dunlap a new contract.

Melb Wildcat

20-01-2010, 02:23 PM

If thats the case there doesnt appear to be many American imports in the female league for the coming season. It seems the majority are going with homegrown WNBL talent to stock their teams.

Lolly_snack

28-01-2010, 09:31 AM

If thats the case there doesnt appear to be many American imports in the female league for the coming season. It seems the majority are going with homegrown WNBL talent to stock their teams.

Denson might be out here on her own this year; but has definitely shown she can play!

Depending on who she has around her will be a tough double on the island this year!

opalswatcher

28-01-2010, 02:25 PM

Alice Kunek has also signed at kilsyth.

Jarry to sign at Ballarat in the next day

Hammonds to sign at nunawading along with Sam Richards

Lolly_snack

28-01-2010, 02:42 PM

Hammonds to sign at nunawading along with Sam Richards

Wont that make it three restricted players??

Marty Clarke

02-02-2010, 02:09 PM

Have Frankston women signed any players yet????Bit of a worrying sign as most teams are loaded up with talent.

opalswatcher

03-02-2010, 10:48 AM

yeah they have two huge signings!

Jess mcPherson (NZ - Ex Caps) and April Helliwell.

Watch out for the Blues to make a huge run (or walk!) at the playoffs with those two leading the team.

Jackie Moon

03-02-2010, 11:12 AM

yeah they have two huge signings!

Jess mcPherson (NZ - Ex Caps) and April Helliwell.

Watch out for the Blues to make a huge run (or walk!) at the playoffs with those two leading the team.

I assume you mean Jess McCormack, not Jess McPherson, but good signing if that's the case.

Marty Clarke

03-02-2010, 11:56 AM

Going to be a long cold winter for the Lady Blues unless they get cracking.Could be battling for the wooden spoon.....

cheapseats

03-02-2010, 12:17 PM

Sounds like a couple of teams will be having a tough season. Most teams have really loaded up this coming season and those that haven't, well it will be a long season for players and supporters.

Knox have also been very quiet for this time of the year. Any word from the Raiders ?

the voice #31

03-02-2010, 01:35 PM

jsballer

03-02-2010, 01:54 PM

another Logan player will probably be announced soon for the Raiders.

the voice #31

03-02-2010, 02:48 PM

another Logan player will probably be announced soon for the Raiders.

The Sister? Or Veal??

Please tell me it's Veal....

jsballer

03-02-2010, 03:03 PM

neither.

ghost who walks

03-02-2010, 04:21 PM

So from what we have heard so far!!

Albury - Wallbuton & Edmondson
Ballarat - Abrams & Jarry
Bendigo - Wilson & King , Harring (Hibbert & Richards)Title Fav - WNBL Quality
Frankston - Halliwell & McCormick
Hobart - ???
Kilsyth - Butler & Manou - Kunek(Non Restricted)
Knox - Grahem, Fryters & C Smith (Still have a restricted to go)
Launceston - Milner , Glaubitz & Parsons
Nunawading - Wilson & Cunningham (Still have a restricted to go)
Spartans - Logans Players??
Dandenong - ???
Sandringham - Camino, Hunt & Francis

The league looks pretty strong with the caliber of players going around.
Just waiting on a few spots to fill - but Bendigo & Kilsyth and Sandy definately have the advantage thus far - will have to see who fills the other spots far some strength - rumor has it Nunawading have a rabbit under their hat!

theFraudulentone

03-02-2010, 04:43 PM

have heard whispers of another player comin to the fold for albury...early days though...top quality player though...hopefully can get the deal done...

opalswatcher

03-02-2010, 06:01 PM

hobart - denson
Dandenong - downie
Sth Districts - Veal

Logan Graham out for the year with a hip operation. questionable for seabl.

Lolly_snack

04-02-2010, 08:31 AM

Have heard that Burston (Hammonds) might be the rabbit for Nunawading?

Can anyone deny or confirm?

opalswatcher

04-02-2010, 10:01 AM

rabbit is a bit bigger than her and may be in the nations capital.

Bendigo and Ballarat with one restricted spot (C) left are close to finishing their rosters. A big for Bendigo and a guard for Ballarat

the voice #31

04-02-2010, 11:54 AM

Well that leaves either Tolo or Bishop? Wouldn't be LJ, would it? Jason wouldn't have that much to throw around would he??

theFraudulentone

04-02-2010, 04:03 PM

habe heard tolo is only willing to play half the season due to world championships and i doubt LJ would play for anyone other than Albury...Burstons will not play this season as she had another op on her knee the other day...wantin to get it better for wnbl season i believe...

opalswatcher

07-02-2010, 05:25 PM

Cambage signs at launceston. She is going to fly in and out with Glaubitz and Milner.

patm

12-02-2010, 12:37 PM

some big news expected out of Knox ... this week. WOW.

Is this it?

"Knox Ford Raiders have bolstered their line-up with two key additions in Megan Sinclair and Odette Andrew"

Melb Wildcat

12-02-2010, 12:55 PM

How can Megan Sinclair be an addition when she was at Knox last season?

Knox again looking good but might need another tall.

cheapseats

12-02-2010, 01:03 PM

Knox will need to recruit a few more yet. No Graham (inj) Dunlap (cut) and Cunningham (Nunawading).

They have recruited two Brisbane girls Smith and Andrews and that is about it at this stage.

Nunawading announced signings of Carly Wilson and Tolo.

Melb Wildcat

12-02-2010, 01:36 PM

Yeah but at least they should have Fryters back (and healthy) which is a huge bonus. They probably just need another tall to cover Cunningham/Dunlap and they should have a pretty good frontcourt.

A lot will depend on when Graham comes back. Still got time to sign another player yet.

Great to see some of the best young centres in Australia this season playing SEABL. Could be the best group of centres ever in the SEABL.

opalswatcher

14-02-2010, 07:35 PM

Michaela Dombkins has signed to play at Frankston.

Melb Wildcat

15-02-2010, 11:58 AM

I thought Dombkins and Porter were going to stay in Sydney this season?

baller42

15-02-2010, 12:33 PM

ive heard that dombkins will still live in sydney..and just fly in and out each week for the games..

cheapseats

16-02-2010, 10:54 AM

what is it with teams flying players in to play this coming season ? Several teams are going down this path.

Are they going to really get value for their dollar ?

smittys07

16-02-2010, 01:07 PM

what is it with teams flying players in to play this coming season ? Several teams are going down this path.

Are they going to really get value for their dollar ?

Not in the long run they won't ... just not a great way to develop local talent either.

Melb Wildcat

16-02-2010, 03:52 PM

Do these players that are flying in/out just returning up for games or do they train with the team as well? Seems many teams are going down this path to lure WNBL talent. I guess we will find out at the end of the year if it works or not.

opalswatcher

16-02-2010, 07:24 PM

Who is and who isnt??

Melb Wildcat

16-02-2010, 07:41 PM

Looks like Cambage and Milner are at launceston, Dombkins at Frankston, Manou at Kilsyth and probably a few more.

If teams are going to go this way Id like to see them train with the team though. Having local talent go up against these players in training would help them more than just sitting on the bench.

Its great to see some big name players in the league though. The women's SEABL is looking better than many countries premier leagues at the moment.

cheapseats

18-02-2010, 01:24 PM

with the season fast approaching what are peoples thoughts on where the teams will finish ? Who will be the fast starters and who will fall off the pace ?

outer east

18-02-2010, 02:20 PM

Sarah Parsons shoots 41 points in Tassie league and I see Amy Denson is registered in a tassie team as well. Denson cant play for Launie if they have Lizzie and Milne can she?

Melb Wildcat

18-02-2010, 02:25 PM

No, but she can play at Hobart

Id say the table will end a bit like this

Nunawading, Bendigo, Launceston, Brisbane, Knox, Dandenong, Kilsyth, Sandringhan, Ballarat, Albury, Hobart

I think the loss of Duck will be too much for Albury (unless they get a replacement soon).

cheapseats

18-02-2010, 03:34 PM

Wildcat, just dont like Frankston or Brisbane at all ?
I will go :

Launceston
Bendigo
Nunawading
Brisbane
Knox
Dandenong
Ballarat
Sandringham
Kilsyth
Albury
Frankston
Hobart

Melb Wildcat

18-02-2010, 04:01 PM

I actually forgot Frankston but would put them 2nd last at the moment.

I agree with your table cheapseats. If Cambage stays out of foul trouble they will be extremely hard to beat. The question remains can she play more than 25 minutes without getting into foul trouble?

I think Nunawading with Tolo at centre might go better at this level. She will probably get 5 blocks a game.

Bendigo have a good team of pretty good players. Will again do well.

Brisbane again look good.

Knox have lost a few players (Dunlap, Cunningham) and graham injured so think they will struggle early unless hey get another big.

Dandenong have a lot of WNBL bench players which will keep them competitive. Might lack height and therefore think you might have them too high.

Ben

19-02-2010, 08:54 AM

check out www.cobras.net.au for the Lady Cobras final signing.

opalswatcher

19-02-2010, 09:31 AM

Wow who won tattslotto at Kilsyth??

They will be tough. Kilsyth University Flames oh i mean cobras

upnorth

19-02-2010, 09:39 AM

Hey I can't remember if this has been posted but reading the local paper yesterday I see that Veal has signed with Brisbane.

cheapseats

19-02-2010, 09:46 AM

Kilsyth Flames

Lolly_snack

19-02-2010, 11:20 AM

check out www.cobras.net.au for the Lady Cobras final signing.

Does this change your ladders Melb Wildcat or cheapseats??

Surprised you had the Cobras that low on the list anyway! To not have them above Ballarat, Dandenong and Sandringham is beyond me?

Can finish in any order
Launceston
Bendigo
Nunawading
Kilsyth
Knox

Pretty tough but may not have depth
Brisbane (think losing a few of the regulars may hurt them although Veal a good pick up)
Sandringham
Ballarat
Dandenong

Unfortunate but don't count them out
Frankston
Hobart
Albury

cheapseats

19-02-2010, 11:38 AM

Lolly Snack

I dont think it really changes my thoughts much.
Ballarat have Ashby back along with Lewis who was good last year and Jarry
Sandringham have Camino, Hunt, Schniz and Francis so they will be tough
Dandenong should always be tough with a WNBL program to back them.

Brisbane are an unknown, but they do have a great home record and that should see them get somewhere around the six.
Rated Knox just because they will land someone big you think as money has been no object in the past.

Kilsyth will be better, but still short. Butler has not been fantastic at SEABL level in recent years, but picking up Smith will help the scoreline. Loss of Parsons and Papav will hurt.

Melb Wildcat

19-02-2010, 01:17 PM

I was told cobras would sign another good player but to get Smith is huge. Good to see that these experienced players can see the benefits of playing under a very experienced coach. My worry was their scoring power and with Smith this isnt really a worry now.

Id put Cobras into 4th now. They should be able to gel pretty well due to a few of their players playing in Sydney this season.

So Cobras
Losses - Papavs, Denson, Parsons, Werner
Gains - Manou, Butler, Kunek and Smith

Manou provides height the team lacked last season and Smith scoring power. Will be interesting to see how manou goes as the team will rely on her when it comes to defending some great players this season. Having Butler run the team with her experience they should go pretty good. A good blend of youth and experience.

The reason I originally had Dandenong above Kilsyth is due to them having a lot of their bench players in the WNBL team and also thought Kilsyth lacked scoring power. Lollysnack I did have Cobras above Ballarat and Sandy even before the Smith signing was announced.

Lolly_snack

19-02-2010, 01:48 PM

Smith is def going to be a huge bonus to them!

Losing Papavs, Parsons and Denson will be big for the cobras but I think the girls they've got to replace them will be just as good. Kilsyth were beating teams with 'WNBL' players anyway so having some experienced WNBL players of there own I think will increase the W column.

Sorry Wildcat didn't realise that you had them higher but still not higher than Dandenong & Brisbane; cheapseats I think you may have underestimated them (which many have in the past)! Don't count out Moffatt and Kunek; they're not as short as some and should compliment Manou well!

Brisbane will be an unknown but losing half their team who is there replacing them? Very little has come out of there as yet!

Dandenong should be tough and with a new coach I wouldn't count them out but are they going to be big enough?

All I can say is I'm looking forward to the start of the season! Going to be a tough round and with so many new faces around the league it's going to be anyone's guess come game time!

opalswatcher

23-02-2010, 02:39 PM

Randall to return to Brisbane makes them tough with veal.

Still one restricted spot to go at Albury, Bendio and Nunawading. Have to make those announcements soon wouldnt they?

mama k

23-02-2010, 03:22 PM

Randall to return to Brisbane makes them tough with veal.

Still one restricted spot to go at Albury, Bendio and Nunawading. Have to make those announcements soon wouldnt they?

Yes you will have to tell us soon!!!

Haven't Nunawading filled theirs - Wilson & Tolo??

Melb Wildcat

23-02-2010, 03:26 PM

smittys07

23-02-2010, 04:30 PM

Im sure Nunawading have 0 spots available.

I thought Albury also had 0 restricted spots available? I thought players from NZ were considered restricted in SEABL? Is Edmondson regarded as restricted as the BigV site says she isnt? Why isnt she restricted out of curiousity?

They've still got their class-C restricted spot available as far as I'm aware. Both the NZers count as A-restricted, being international players and all.

Melb Wildcat

23-02-2010, 05:50 PM

What is a C class restricted player?

opalswatcher

24-02-2010, 07:46 AM

mama k if i knew i would tell ya mate!

Any ideas yourself??

smittys07

24-02-2010, 08:44 AM

What is a C class restricted player?

A WNBL player playing less than 20 minutes a game, hence Launcestion getting Milner, Glaubitz and Cambage ... Desi will be the C-restricted player, averages less than 20.
At least, that's my understanding of the rule, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Melb Wildcat

24-02-2010, 12:23 PM

Any news on who that could be smitty? The Lady Bandits seem desperate for a sg or pg at this point. Thought they might of got someone by now, although Im guessing there wouldnt be much money (if any) to offer.

opalswatcher

03-03-2010, 09:21 AM

any news out of knox, nunawading, bendigo or Frankston who all have a restricted spot to go?

cheapseats

03-03-2010, 09:51 AM

Bendigo I would think have got a pretty full roster and adding anyone else might only cause headaches for rotations and keeping everyone happy with minutes. Chalmers can hold down point and K Wilson the two guard spot so not sure where Wildcat is going with needing a 1 and 2 man.

Knox is the interesting one as they have been very quiet. My guess is they are awaiting a visitor from the USA. I cannot see Heath going into the season without a loaded up roster as he doesn't seem to be a coach that would build a program from the ground up.

Nunwading have Tolo and Wilson but look pretty thin for ball handlers with many players departing.

Frankston like Knox have been very quiet over the preseason, will be interested to see what the new coach brings to the table.

opalswatcher

03-03-2010, 12:01 PM

who are everyones restricted's??

Melb Wildcat

03-03-2010, 01:05 PM

Cheapseats last time I checked the Lady bandits were from Albury, not Bendigo. Trust me they definately need a PG and SG! Have heard Duck isnt the only guard on the bandits team to leave in the off-season. Maybe they will run the backcourt with the kids but that could get ugly.

Have not heard a word on Knox getting any players yet. Im sure its just a matter of when, not if though.

patm

03-03-2010, 03:02 PM

Knox is the interesting one as they have been very quiet. My guess is they are awaiting a visitor from the USA. I cannot see Heath going into the season without a loaded up roster as he doesn't seem to be a coach that would build a program from the ground up.
And yet if you ask him that's exactly what he says he is doing. As many Knox kids as he possibly can and who cares about the winning and losing.
Don't believe it myself. My guess would be that the new director of coaching is putting in a lot of time on the import front. What other Australian players are there left to play SEABL anyway? It certainly is very quiet though.

opalswatcher

03-03-2010, 04:01 PM

i heard todat they are waiting on abby bishop to accept or knock back a european contract!

Bugz

03-03-2010, 04:32 PM

From what I understand Knox are looking pretty much complete with a few signing in the off season.

Roster at the moment reads:
Emily Fryters
Sara Graham (Restricted) (I believe has been training)
Cassie Smith
Rachael Waterhouse
Danni Bone
Megan Sinclair
Oddette Andrews

They could be looking for an import big to help Emily out??? They may top up with juniors as well.

cheapseats

04-03-2010, 01:21 PM

Sorry MW

Just looked on SEABL website at comings and goings of players. Shocked nobody has picked up Jessie Smith from Albury since she is now living in Melbourne. Also Jessica Eason from Knox.

Melb Wildcat

04-03-2010, 01:40 PM

Still heaps of time to sign players. It also depends where in Melbourne a player moves to as no SEABL team north or west of the city (not including Geelong). Kilsyth could use Smith though for a bit more height. Speaking of Kilsyth some HUGE ins in the off-season there! Strange how all the talk about players leaving has stopped now. Definately a contender this season.

opalswatcher

04-03-2010, 03:16 PM

2 x canberra bigs expected to sign at Knox and Bendigo this weekend.

cheapseats

04-03-2010, 03:16 PM

WC - they certainly have recruited heavily in both men and womens teams this year. Must be come into so money over the off season. :D

interesting that Frankston have signed Jess McCormack after her not getting a game with Canberra.

Melb Wildcat

04-03-2010, 07:47 PM

Even Tolo struggled to get game time with Canberra lol.

Kilsyth must be making some money - Swinburne, 2 pubs and another new sponsor. Im sure they have a bit of coin lol.

outer east

05-03-2010, 06:49 AM

MW It does look like Kilsyth have come into some $$$$$ but lets look long term, how many local players will leave due to lack of opportunity and how many of these high paid players and coaches give to the club? I would suggest very few. Lets continue this conversation in 2 or 3 years and see where Kilsyth are then.

Melb Wildcat

05-03-2010, 08:30 AM

It appears that Kilsyth and Knox seem to be easy targets for 'buying' talent and not developing their own. People have been saying that for a long time now and both clubs have been quite successful in the past 2 or 3 years. If you have money to offer good players then the club is always going to be be competitive regardless.

If you look at the best player on other teams lists you will rarely find that player is still with their junior association. Its really only Dandenong, Bendigo and nunawading who can say their best player is one of their juniors. Here is a short list:
Launcestion - Cambage
Frankston - Dombkins
Albury - Walbutton
sandringham - Francis
Brisbane - Veal
Hobart - Denson

For whatever reason Kilsyth seem to be easy targets but when you look at junior talent on many of the rosters its really only Albury and Hobart (new team) in the womens SEABL that have majority local players.

The SEABL is changing/has changed from what it used to be. It used to be built around an associations junior talent, but now its more of a professional league. A player can play D-League and then head to college to develop their game now. There are heaps more opportunities for girls now.

the voice #31

05-03-2010, 09:59 AM

And yet if you ask him that's exactly what he says he is doing. As many Knox kids as he possibly can and who cares about the winning and losing.
Don't believe it myself. My guess would be that the new director of coaching is putting in a lot of time on the import front. What other Australian players are there left to play SEABL anyway? It certainly is very quiet though.

Slightly in his defence, he has spent the last three years involved with what will be the future at Knox. He's coaching the 18 second side this year along with the D-League coach who has the 1's. And they both spent the last two years in the 16's program. So they are looking to the future. It's just not there right now. Danni Bone and Rachel need to step up a bit this year. I believe that's in both of them... They are both still only 19 so there is scope for them to still improve. I believe they just need to play a bit more...

patm

05-03-2010, 03:43 PM

Slightly in his defence...
I didn't think there was any need to defend him from my comments. Someone else said he wasn't likely to develop his own talent. I just said that he says he is going to this year. I then also said I found that hard to believe, but that is just my opinion. So if anyone can possibly follow what I have just tried to say, I didn't think I was attacking him at all.
Now if you want to talk about Frankston however, ... :D

jsballer

06-03-2010, 10:28 AM

Heath is too competitive to not want to win it all and good on him for that- if anyone believes they are not still trying to recruit to win a championship they are kidding themselves- that being said if it does not happen the excuse will be because they were "blooding the kids".
Problem for Knox is I do not believe their "star players" are as strong as what the coaching staff think they are- especially considering how strong the womens comp is this year.

ghost who walks

08-03-2010, 01:10 PM

Looking at the strength of the league this year - most teams deapth will play a major part in success - Clubs like Nunawading and Frankston have developed their junior talent will definately get long term rewards - Bendigo will always be strong due to the WNBL link. Looking at Nunawading, Frankston, the two tassie teams with their rosters based soley on their own juniors this definately shows a investment in their our programes. The others will come and go each year all depending upon money and player recriutment.
Success is not just about 1 year - but about consistancy over time.

Melb Wildcat

08-03-2010, 03:19 PM

Yeah Albury have had teams with majority of the players who are locals and look at how consistent they have been :D.

The teams that do develop junior talent will not be able to compete with bigger associations when they are developed. Its like in soccer ---a lower division team can develop players and then the higher division teams poach that player and is able to offer more $.

The bigger associations will always have that money to get good players, thats what people do not understand.

velvet Sledgehammer

08-03-2010, 04:18 PM

I dont think you can blame any club that recruits (poach)players they feel are required to fill a roster.I mean if you have developed a group of great guards they certainly need some quality talls to develop with.If as a club you have none,I say poach away happily.This also applies in reverse if you are fortunate enough to have an abundance of talls (LOL) they need guards.
I also agree that in theory all coach's would love to use only local talent,but if it isnt there and they have no success ,they will not have the job long enough to develop it.
The attraction now of college in the states also makes it difficult....once again you work as a coach to develop talent,you achieve that and then lose them to the AIS or USA.
My only grudge is when clubs recruit players to the detrement and court time of their own players.Like any sport the quality of a player is only an opinion and we are all entitled to them,so any coach can make the atguement that the local isnt good enough.
If you are not an attractive package as a club then you give the reason you are going local.When some congratulate Nuna and Dande for going with their juniors I think we should look for where they started their career,as both of their programs are or have been stacked with imported talent

ghost who walks

08-03-2010, 06:16 PM

[ If you are not an attractive package as a club then you give the reason you are going local.When some congratulate Nuna and Dande for going with their juniors I think we should look for where they started their career,as both of their programs are or have been stacked with imported talent[/QUOTE]

Have not seen to much of the rangers roster but nunawading look mainly to have filled majority of spots with their juniors!

velvet Sledgehammer

08-03-2010, 08:17 PM

Over the years The Spooks juniors are those juniors that started elsewhere first.....oh what an attraction a state Junior coach is...hence Dandwnong / Eltham current players

opalswatcher

09-03-2010, 06:47 AM

Its time to play a game.........

Lets name each teams starting 5 for the season.

Bit of fun.........

Lolly_snack

11-03-2010, 09:40 AM

Lets name each teams starting 5 for the season.

So who out the of the 6 girls they've got listed at Sandringham would you start? Any word of anyone else playing there? Or were they just a little rushed getting their roster to the office?

Word is Dandenong are playing Kilsyth tonight.......

ghost who walks

12-03-2010, 03:42 PM

Dont think you could go past Bendigo Starting 5 -

K.Wilson
K.Hibbert
L.King
E.Harring
G.Richards

And rumour has it that King will miss the first 2 games so kristy will be filling in.

Dont think any team in the SEABL or even some WNBL teams could better that group.

Definately the team to beat!

opalswatcher

12-03-2010, 04:02 PM

ur starting group is pretty good mate.

Getting tolo and sis in law is a great get!!

Melb Wildcat

12-03-2010, 04:04 PM

Yeah will be a strong team if Kristy plays. It depends on a lot of factors as well though. Most teams have gotten stronger in the off-season except Albury and maybe Dandenong.

Cobras starting five might be able to compete though - Manou, Kunek, Moffat, Smith, Butler ---expect Smith might be the early MVP favorite together with Cambage.

DiggyDawg

13-03-2010, 07:54 AM

Hobart were always going to struggle but will even more now that Denson has left the team! They are seriously hunting for a new big as they need one NOW!!
In saying that there 5 I think will be the 3 that have SEABL experience
in Price, Crombie & Berry and then Berry's sister Kara Rolls and a young U20's pg Ashton Eaton

I think the starting 5 for Launceston will be

Milner
Glaubitz
Parsons
Mitchell
Cambage

But the starting 5 that will be hard to beat will be Kilsyth I think:

Kunek
Buter
Smith
Manou
Moffatt

jsballer

13-03-2010, 09:46 AM

from the rumor doing the rounds right now expect Denson to still be in the league... funny what people see from the carpark!

opalswatcher

13-03-2010, 11:06 AM

no rumour she is at hobart. Check the media guide

curious

13-03-2010, 11:14 AM

She may appear @ Knox.

curious

13-03-2010, 11:14 AM

no rumour she is at hobart. Check the media guide
Maybe she left after the media guide was published!

DiggyDawg

13-03-2010, 02:36 PM

Opals Watcher you are a little behind the times Denson quit Hobart on Wednesday! She is in Vic right now!!

opalswatcher

13-03-2010, 10:42 PM

you didnt sense my sarcasm? hahaha

Knox baby! haha

Melb Wildcat

14-03-2010, 12:49 AM

What was the reason for Denson quitting Hobart. Did she see the standard of her teamamtes and think what have I gotten myself into? :p

bambam33

14-03-2010, 01:48 PM

What was the reason for Denson quitting Hobart. Did she see the standard of her teamamtes and think what have I gotten myself into? :p

So no chance of her heading to Albury then ;)

opalswatcher

14-03-2010, 06:56 PM

Nunawading beat ringwood in a praccy today
Albury Beat Bendigo (WOW!!)

cheapseats

15-03-2010, 11:39 AM

Round one is coming ......
Sandy to beat Albury
Launceston Frequent Flyers to beat Ballarat (Welcome back KA)
Frankston to beat Ho-Ho-Ho Hobart in the stinker of the round
Knox to beat Kilsyth Flames
Spooks to beat BIG Bendigo (if Harrower doesn't play)
Launceston Frequent Flyers to beat Nongers
Kilsyth Flames to beat Ho-Ho-Ho Hobart by 100 and Smith to have 50 !

DiggyDawg

15-03-2010, 12:27 PM

you didnt sense my sarcasm? hahaha

Knox baby! haha

O my apologies OW it is hard sometimes to get sarcasm on here ;)

DiggyDawg

15-03-2010, 12:28 PM

What was the reason for Denson quitting Hobart. Did she see the standard of her teamamtes and think what have I gotten myself into? :p

Apparent disagreement with the coach MW!

Melb Wildcat

15-03-2010, 01:56 PM

I agree with most of cheapseats tips but think

Kilsyth will beat Knox. Knox still have injuries and if Denson has signed there then still wouldnt have gelled yet. Kilsyth too big with manou inside.

Albury to beat Sandy. Sandy couldnt win with Porter, Dombkins, Perrera and Romeo last season so think they will struggle without them. Francis will be tough to handle, but think Walbutton had the better of her last time in ABA.

dribbles

15-03-2010, 10:15 PM

Melb Wildcat

15-03-2010, 11:25 PM

dribbles

17-03-2010, 11:14 PM

My guess would be --Fryters, Denson (if she is there),Odette Andrew, Smith and Tan. I think Graham is injuured still but you could even put Keane into that line-up. Knox are stronger than they look.

They have a few different options if they have Denson though.

I believe Denson has signed which is good pick up for Knox. Didn't think Tan was playing this year so may need to start Bone.??
Should be a great game!

opalswatcher

18-03-2010, 09:57 AM

probably wont be cleared though for the first game this week vs kilsyth.

cheapseats

18-03-2010, 10:24 AM

Be good if Denson plays, as always good to see someone play against their old team. Although for some players in the leauge it is possibly a little hard as they change every season.

Any further word on anyone on Sandringhams list ? I did hear Schniz ex Spooks
Or anything out of Frankston or Dandenong ? Dandenong still have a restricted spot open I believe.

Melb Wildcat

18-03-2010, 03:48 PM

I think Dandy might be just trying to give some minutes to players in their WNBL team and develop them a bit in SEABL. They have 5 Dandy WNBL players so that should get them a mid table finish, although they do lack height.

As for Frankston my only suggestion is Nat Porter for obvious reasons. Nat Porter has said she is taking the WNBL off-season off though, but is the past many players have said that and played.

Heard Hurst and perrera playing for Canberra ABA team in waratah? That rules them out.

Whats the latest on Bishop? Seems to be one player (with Porter) that could be included as well.

opalswatcher

18-03-2010, 03:59 PM

nowhere for bishop to go. Denson (a restricted) takes away knox lasty spot. Dandenong have a C rerstricted spot left and frankston have used an A on Mccormack and a B on Domkins so porter doesnt fit them either.

Nunawading have a c left as do Ballarat and Bendigo and Albury.

cheapseats

18-03-2010, 04:03 PM

Bishop is heading Queensland way.

Bibby coaching up there as well so thought Hurst would go north with her too.

Melb Wildcat

18-03-2010, 04:17 PM

I think its Abrams and Hurst playing for Canberra ABA, not Perrera. I forgot which 2 it was. I am pretty sure I heard from a very good source that Hurst was playing with Canberra Gunners in waratah.

cheapseats

19-03-2010, 10:29 AM

any late team mail before tonights season tip off ?
Injuries ? Players added to the roster ? etc etc etc:twisted:

opalswatcher

19-03-2010, 10:38 AM

Denson to knox - hahaha.

It is friday and i am tired - leave me alone! haha

Observer

19-03-2010, 10:53 AM

Okay here is the drill.
Bibby, Hurst and Rose going to back to Galdstone

Bishop going to Rocky.

Tolo and Wilson to Nuna (flying in and out)

Perreria and Lewis(Bowley) playing with Canberra Nationals in Waratah along with Lauren Jansen and Mikalea Dalglesh plus one or two other fringe Caps players. Abrams on team list but is currently overseas. Beatty is assistant coach

cheapseats

19-03-2010, 11:45 AM

who will be the big improvers this season (players) ? What players stocks will rise ?

Melb Wildcat

19-03-2010, 02:04 PM

Id be watching a couple of the Albury girls who will improve this season with an increase in minutes with 3 of their starters from last season gone. Will be interesting to see who will start at the PG/SG position for them as very inexperienced ---Collins? Stevens? Mahady? De koeyer?

In terms of Dandenong Terdich should get big minutes at centre as they lack height. Could be a 10ppg/8rpg player.

Schatz for Brisbane could also benefit from playing with both Veal and Randall as she might get some open shots and better minutes.

Obviously the Hobart girls will get better just playing against better players this season. I cannot see them being too competitive but they should improve towards the end of season. I wonder if they will get another import?

Just my thoughts :D

cheapseats

19-03-2010, 02:27 PM

word is WC that Hobart have, or already getting replacement to go along side Price.

I will be interested to see Ashby's return for Ballarat and I think that Ranoldi will have a really good year.
I will be interested to see if Cunningham can live up to any of her hype, or will this be coach number 10 that doesn't get anything out of her.
Keen to see if Parsons can really have a massive season at Launceston
Harrington in Bendigo will be good to watch
Moffatt at Kilsyth and with you on Terdich at Dandenong
Also how McCormack plays at Frankston

Melb Wildcat

19-03-2010, 03:05 PM

I was also going to say Moffat but dont want to show a Kilsyth bias :p. I think with the new inclusions this season for Kilsyth her stats might not get better, but overall as a player she should.

Cunningham could benefit from playing alngside Tolo. That is a very big frontcourt and smaller teams will struggle against them inside (and out with Wilson). I think she will go well with a tall player playing alongside her.

DiggyDawg

21-03-2010, 10:41 PM

Does anyone know why Kylie Reed is not playing??:)

opalswatcher

22-03-2010, 09:01 AM

one of the many that decided to not return frankston i believe.

cheapseats

22-03-2010, 09:09 AM

Thoughts on round one anyone ?
I thought there would be three really good games. Ballarat V Launceston, Bendigo V Nunawading and Knox V Kilsyth.

Think out of round one Launceston (while they have Cambage) will be very hard to beat. Outstanding return by Ashby who had 25 pts in her return to SEABL. Kilsyth got the double. Hobart was as expected, really crap.

I took the family to watch Kilsyth and Knox play and it was a close game. Kilsyth 32 turnovers was shocking, and just beat Keane and Bone combining for 2/21 from the field as the worst stat for the night. Disappointed that Graham and Denson didn't play for Knox. Moffatt really good for Kilsyth and McMenamin hit some big three's after coming off the bench. Smith got her points mostly from the foul line. For Knox it was all over when Fryters was fouled off in the last, but the Knox team looked tired. Sinclair was possibly there shining light. Lots of zones from both teams.

Great to have the season started again. :D

Melb Wildcat

22-03-2010, 02:25 PM

Yeah Kilsyth did have a lot of turnovers and Smith had 16 of those. She did have a good game though as she created for teammates and also got to the line. Lady Cobras were without Butler for the 2 games this week so when she comes back she will get the turnover count down.

In the Hobart game Cobras dominated the Chargers from the opening whistle. Hobart would struggle against D-league teams at the moment. Rhonda Price looks like she will be a very good player and seems to be able to shoot the ball very well from 3 point land and the low post. She was really only Hobarts real shining light. I think Denson made the right decision : )

Ellie Manou is a true centre and had 2 pretty good games over the weekend as well. was also impressed by Jordan o'Shea over the weekend --she stepped up in both games and hit some nice shots.

I agree with cheapseats, Sinclair was easily the best for Knox and I was disappointed Knox didnt have denson and graham.

cheapseats

22-03-2010, 02:55 PM

I would not have thought Manou had a great game against Knox. But looks like she did better against a very poor Hobart outfit.

Cambage will easily win POW.

Butler may be a few weeks away so I hear.

Albury very good over Sandringham, storming home to grab the points.
Bendigo looks like King had a good game and Chalmers had 8 rebounds.

Melb Wildcat

22-03-2010, 03:22 PM

I thought Manou was good against Knox. Rebounded well after getting into early foul trouble. I just think she adds toughness to the team and a bit of size that the Cobras have lacked for a while. I thought she also had a couple of very important offensive rebounds that gave the Cobras a 2nd chance. Once the Cobras play against Tolo, Cambage and Francis I think Manou's importance will become more known. Kunek also rebounded well.

cheapseats

23-03-2010, 04:01 PM

round 2
Ballarat to beat Dandenong by 7
Knox to beat Frankston by 42
Spooks to beat Sandy by 17
The Champs to beat Kilsyth by 5
Launceston to beat Albury by 15
Spooks to beat the champs by 2
Albury to beat Hobart by 38
Launceston to beat Hobart by 75

smittys07

23-03-2010, 07:05 PM

round 2
Knox to beat Frankston by 42
Albury to beat Hobart by 38
Launceston to beat Hobart by 75

Those are some serious blowouts! Unless you're just messin' around? :)
Out of curiosity, did anyone see Hobart girls play last week? Obviously they're going to struggle but just how bad are they?
As bad as Albury in 2006? They lost by almost 80 in one game I remember.

Melb Wildcat

23-03-2010, 07:36 PM

I saw Hobart girls play and they are very bad. Rhonda Price is a pretty good player but the rest just are not ready from what Ive seen. They are probably not even to a D-league standard overall. Good luck to them trying to staop Cambage this week though :p:p:p:p.

Trust me they absolutely suck. Yeah probably very close to Albury of 2006 but you take Price out and they are probably worse. I doubt they will win a game for a looooonnnggg time unless they get a big signing soon.

Id say there will be a few blow-outs in the games mentioned but Im pretty sure launcestion might put their bench on after half time like the Cobras did. It will still get ugly.

basketballer999

23-03-2010, 08:26 PM

you sure knox by 42 to frankstons knox did lose last weekend to kilsyth

the voice #31

23-03-2010, 08:38 PM

Yeah I caught Frankston and Hobart on Saturday night. They try hard and they run their stuff just, don't look to score often enough individually. "Big Willie Style" got a big year ahead for himself. Price is ok and they can shoot when they're open, but how many open looks you gonna get all year? The Torn by at least 50. Would like to see Cambage go for a scoring record this week. Anyone know what it is??

Knox over Frankston by a few. Won't be 40 plus. Jess McCormack is a big target inside and if Franga can find her enough then it'll stay 15-20 points.

Denson in uniform this week? Anyone know?

Melb Wildcat

23-03-2010, 09:20 PM

Yeah but Knox didnt have Graham or Denson last week. Im tipping Knox by 25 points over Frankston. Fryters also fully fit so cannot see Frankston getting close.

cheapseats

25-03-2010, 12:09 PM

Frankston will only beat Hobart this season as they are clearly the bottom 2 in league IMO. Knox get Graham and Denson in uniform and will have been given a hard week after loss so they will be hungry.

59 is all time game record by Mandy Bonney who atthe time was also playing for Launceston

Melb Wildcat

25-03-2010, 12:13 PM

Yeah both Hobart and frankston will struggle. Albury, sandy and Ballarat are both team I rank on paper as lower ranked teams too but much better than Hobart and Frankston. If Frankston are to get a win Id say it will be against one of these teams.

Albury seem to be very well coached though. Seems to get the most of his players esp the NZ girls.

cheapseats

25-03-2010, 12:45 PM

Don't underestimate ballarat. They will be very close if not playing finals this season.

Melb Wildcat

25-03-2010, 11:40 PM

Id rate them above all the teams I think will finish towards the bottom. I just cannot see them beating or finishing above teams such as Knox, Launceston, Kilsyth, Nunawading or Bendigo. Id probably rate them on par with Dandenong in that they will finish mid table..

cheapseats

26-03-2010, 01:53 PM

I think I may have over estimated both Brisbane and Nunawading. I think Nunawading will be middle of the road and fightng for spot 5 or 6. Come Opals camps they lose Tolo and Wilson they have nothing left.

Brisbane I thought had signed Randall. Without her they look like they might struggle. Their biggest asset is home games which they do not drop very often.

As a result Kilsyth and Ballarat will be finals contenders IMO. I know most had Kilsyth as a finals conteder anyway. Not sold on their big and again during Opals camps they are without Smith. No word on Butlers return either.

Ben

27-03-2010, 08:28 PM

Swinburne Lady Cobras 62 defeat Brisbane 55 move to 3-0. Smith 19pts, 9 rbds, 9 ass, Manou 19pts, 17 rbds.

smittys07

28-03-2010, 08:49 PM

Wallbutton sets new Lady Bandits single-game record with 25 boards against Hobart ... beats previous record of 24 set by Maddy Plunkett in 2007 in an overtime loss to Knox.

Melb Wildcat

28-03-2010, 11:43 PM

Huge game by Walbutton. I hope she gets more minutes in the WNBL next season - might have to leave adelaide though for that to happen. Albury win by about 20 against Hobart so at the moment Id rate frankston and Albury about the same.

Why do Albury only take 8 players to Tassie? Is that to save costs? I was surprised they didnt take Stevens as she has been on the list for a few seasons, but took a couple of very inexperienced girls.

smittys07

29-03-2010, 09:09 AM

Casein

30-03-2010, 09:18 AM

Have watched Nunawading play three games now, disappointed with Tolo, for somone with the wraps she had at end of WNBL season I expected more.

May be a case of needing better players around her so that the defense does not key on her all the time. Even though young has had a couple of WNBL seasons under her belt, would have expected a better display and an ability to create more for herself, shrug, time will tell.

Of course she is not going to find it any easier at the international level, from what has been thrown at her so far at SEABL level , Bendigo, Sandy and a well drilled Brisbane, she would be a lamb to the slaughter.

Wilson very good, quality player.

Any thoughts?

and Bendigo looked very good..Brisbane a little behind, both ahead of Sandy.

Nunawading disappointing against all three, they have a lot of work to do, losing Wilson etc to opals camp and maybe duty will hurt plenty. Look to be short an experienced guard or two who can look after ball and distribute it to the right people at the right time. They can only improve as season goes on, they hope anyway :):)

fatty boom bar

30-03-2010, 03:55 PM

Prodigal

30-03-2010, 05:02 PM

How can flying players in on a weekend help? Wilson and Tolo live in Canberra so I assume they are not training with the rest of the players. They both play a lot of minutes. Teamwork is something that you develop at training.

Several teams are doing it. I was told "It wont disrupt team harmony" regarding the plans for a couple of Flames but I can't see how it doesn't.

Melb Wildcat

30-03-2010, 05:16 PM

opalswatcher

30-03-2010, 08:09 PM

This pains me to say but get off Nuna, their coaches and tolo.

The club has a very new team and a very new coach. (He has played three good teams with three good coaches). All coahes in this league take time to find their feet.

Same goe with tolo - she is a baby!! Let her develop and become what she can. It is easy to look good next to jackson and Bishop now just let the kid find her own moj on the court.

cheapseats

31-03-2010, 09:51 AM

Opalswatcher you are getting soft.

Nunawading have been the disappointment of the start of the season for me. They have players with ability so there is no excuses, and almost evry game is a tough game. Good learning curve for a new coach, but as we all know people dont call for players heads, always the coaches. I thought Nunawading would make the five, and they still might, but I doubt it from what I have seen.

While the Spooks I think have been very average so far, I think the highlight for me has been Karen Ashby's return to SEABL.

smittys07

31-03-2010, 12:20 PM

Kilsyth and Launceston both also fly players in and out for games and both are undefeated.
Mikaela Dombkins also got player of the week so there are arguments for and against the practice.

I think just because they're undefeated doesn't necessarily make for a successful plan though. The bigger picture would have to be: are the wins at the cost of long-term development for the local talent? If so, it's going to be short-term gain and long-term pain. Look at the roller coaster Launceston have been on over the past few years:
2004 - 1-21
2005 - 10-12
2006 - 5-19 (With 3 wins over first-year team Albury)
2007 - 11-15
2008 - 17-7 (Bibby, Hurst and Christa Hays)
2009 - 2-18
2010 - Undefeated so far

So what happens next year if Cambage, Milner, Glaubitz (and to a lesser extent, Parsons) all decide to leave? Back to square one, just like in 2009.

And just because Dombkins got POW doesn't make it a successful policy either, Cambage got POW the week before, so all that proves is the best player each weekend gets the award. I'm not sure how you can argue that that makes it a success to fly someone in.

Melb Wildcat

31-03-2010, 01:24 PM

smittys07

31-03-2010, 01:35 PM

What I am saying is that although players like Cambage and Dombkins might not train with the team they have still been their respective teams best player by a long way (Dombkins scored more than half her teams points in the 2 games this weekend). Launceston's record over the years has been very up and down but with no men's team all available money can be spent on having a good female team.
The amount of WNBL talent that is playing SEABL this year is huge and I think this will continue to grow and teams like Launceston will benefit. The days of having local players making up most of your team appear over.
My question to you is how many teams in the league (except Hobart and Albury) have rosters that include majority 'local' talent anyway? Do you think Albury would take Cambage fly in/out if she was available and they had the funds?

No, I honestly don't think they would. Seriously.
The men's team had Bruce Bolden do that in 2004 and in the end, while Bruce was a fantastic player and put up spectacular numbers, it was all for very little gain, both short- and long-term.
As a result of those lessons (and some lessons from last year too), the men's team this year only signed players who were willing to move up here, ie: Daniel Briglia and JP Wilkinson.
What I'm saying is it's more than OK to have imports, I just don't see how flying the star players in every week (you can't tell me that money couldn't be better spent elsewhere) and not have them train with the team can be any good in terms of long-term development.

Melb Wildcat

31-03-2010, 02:19 PM

Maybe having these star players that fly in/out might help to attract sponsorship and attract people to the games? A team that finishes 2 -18 is possibly going to find it hard to get sponsorship, but if you can say you have Cambage/Milner playing then it gets potentially easier.

Im pretty sure having a Cambage on your team will bring in crowds as well which is good exposure and helps develop the game (most fans wouldnt even know she flys in/out anyway). If this is the case and the team wins, then i would say that is good value for money.

Im pretty sure Albury got Briglia and Wilkinson as they didnt have to pay them like some of the players in the past -hence having to wait for them to obtain work there before it was official. Im not sure it had anything to do with the flying the players in/out debate.

At the end of the day its up to individual teams to decide on that. Many teams obviously feel that it is worth the money and many either don't or cannot afford it.

smittys07

31-03-2010, 02:42 PM

Im pretty sure Albury got Briglia and Wilkinson as they didnt have to pay them like some of the players in the past -hence having to wait for them to obtain work there before it was official. Im not sure it had anything to do with the flying the players in/out debate. .

No, you missed my point entirely. What I'm saying is that they have a strict policy of 'if you want to play for Albury, you HAVE to live here, (and you have to have a job if you're not being paid by the club)'. And that applies to EVERY player, regardless of ability.
So what I mean is that if Liz Cambage wanted to play here, she would have to move here and while she would no doubt be paid well, she'd also have to do all the club functions, clinics etc. How many of those do you think she's doing for the Tornadoes if she's flying in and out all the time?

At the end of the day its up to individual teams to decide on that. Many teams obviously feel that it is worth the money and many either don't or cannot afford it.

MANY teams feel it is worth the money? How many teams are flying players in?

Melb Wildcat

31-03-2010, 03:09 PM

Kilsyth, Frankston, Nunawading and Launcestion all do it that i know of. Maybe even sandringham but not too sure? Thats 4 teams that do it (at the very least) so a good number. I have no idea how many functions/clinics etc these players do for their club so I cannot say.

While I admire Albury's policy with the job/work, it is also going to be hard for them to attract 'star' players due to its location and the team financials.

smittys07

31-03-2010, 05:01 PM

Four out of 12 is what, a third? So two-thirds aren't.

All I'm saying is, if you were a supporter of a regional team like Albury, Launceston, Hobart, Ballarat, Bendigo et al, wouldn't you rather have 'stars' who lived in the town, did clinics for kids and just generally invested themselves in the community?
I'm preaching to the choir here but look at Albury's results last year with 2 imports and a bunch of locals ... they did a heck of a lot better than some of the other teams who no doubt overpaid for WNBL talent.
That sort of thing pays off in the long run. By all means bring in imports, but gee, I really don't think flying them in and out is the answer. The Torns may well win a title this year but will it be worth the cost?

Melb Wildcat

31-03-2010, 05:47 PM

dribbles

31-03-2010, 06:06 PM

smittys07

31-03-2010, 06:23 PM

It's still a third more than last season, meaning that it could become a growing trend in years to come.

It can pay off in the long run, but not if 3/5 starters leave :D. I think Duck might be close to WNBL level when she returns.

Sorry, but you've gone from "many teams" to speculating about it becoming a growing trend because four teams have done it this year. It might not too.
What's your point about Duck? Even if she's WNBL level (and I hope that she is), do you think she'll get more than 20 minutes per game? And besides, her family is here, so she's always going to come back at some point.

opalswatcher

31-03-2010, 06:32 PM

what about the country driving players in and out from places?

Eg. Ballarat - Jarry, Bendigo - Hibbert

Are they classed in the same way??

velvet Sledgehammer

31-03-2010, 06:52 PM

I have watched the Knox Raiders over the last couple of weeks and have been dissapointed that i havent seen last years superstar Caitlin Cunningham in action. Can someone please tell me where she is playing and how she is going?

Has gone back to Nunawading after a season of WNBL at Dandenong.I think she pulled the pin there as well.Apparently Very difficult to fit into the established program...lol

Melb Wildcat

31-03-2010, 06:53 PM

Well some may say 4 (possibly even more) teams out of 12 is 'many'. If teams have success with it this season then it could soon become 6 or 7. When you consider Hobart and Albury (and Dandenong seem to be a WNBL developlment style squad) probably do not have the money to do it anyway, then it really can be interpreted as as that. In a semi professional league 4/12 teams to be flying players in/out is still a lot. I cannot think of any other league that does it.

My point on Duck is that she has come through the system and has the potential to be a decent back-up in the WNBL (maybe 15 mins a game at WNBL level). The only reason she has left Albury is to get a college scholorship. 3/5 Albury starters from last season left anyway so just like a 'star' player leaving they need to be replaced. Would be great if Albury did get her back eventually but thats no certainty. Todhunter has family in Albury too but hasnt returned.

PS Dribbles Caitlin now plays for Nunawading.