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Franklin
04-05-2005, 08:03 AM
How do you handle it when your kids are the good side of a spanking? You don't want them to be seen as big headed but they do like it when they win (especially when they flog a team who has a couple of players who think (know??) that they're soooo good!

And they are 10 and 11 year olds

Hogsbreath
04-05-2005, 11:36 AM
At local comp, I put restrictions on my team ie: only certain players are allowd to shoot, must throw 5 passes before a shot etc...

In reps, I continue to drill and don't take our foot off the accelerator. I use the situation to get my bench plenty of court time.

Steph
04-05-2005, 12:32 PM
Keep the poise, as you said you really don't want to come off big headed, just keep playing as you would in a normal game and as Hogsbreath said, it's a great opportunity to give the bench players a good run.

I would make sure and tell the players that it's important to keep up good sportsmanship and do not get big headed or obnoxious. People admire good teams who play well, win and have good attitudes. A good example was at under 14 nationals 2003, Dandenong won the title and an official came up to them after the grand final and told them if they hadn't have won then they were going to give them the "good sports"award or something like that (can't remember what it was called). Dandenong was respected and many of the teams came to cheer them on because they never got big-headed, cocky or silly during any of the games and treated every team with the top respect and were friendly with opponents before and after the games.

It's also a great chance to run plays that are new and haven't been run much with the team.

04-05-2005, 01:18 PM
Its all very ncie smashing someone,

when im coaching, i like to get my team to run good offence, and score out of that...
lots of movement, lots of passes

and on defence, get the positioning right, and lots of talk...

put on a good basketball display, not a athletic one!

Homer
04-05-2005, 02:35 PM
Keeping the foot on the throttle is OK but not to the detriment of sportsmanship. I am big on respect and at junior level, no laughing or gloating at the losing team.
If the winning team wants respect from the losing team, the winning team must respect the losing team.

Steph
04-05-2005, 02:43 PM
Can refs at rep level give techs or warnings if the rep players are being rude and horrible and cocky about winning by so much?

Skindog the Hawk
04-05-2005, 02:55 PM
Can refs at rep level give techs or warnings if the rep players are being rude and horrible and cocky about winning by so much?

Depends on what they're doing - if you're trash talking an opponent it is within the rules that a T can be given... :?

SD

Homer
04-05-2005, 03:21 PM
Can refs at rep level give techs or warnings if the rep players are being rude and horrible and cocky about winning by so much?

Would it come under "unsportsmanlike behaviour" steph?

Steph
04-05-2005, 03:31 PM
yeah, like laughing, trash talking, mocking etc. and just really as you said unsportsmanlike things, refs should be allowed to do that in rep especially v.c cause it is way out of order and really un-professional! I'm just curious if they can do that.

Homer
04-05-2005, 03:36 PM
yeah, like laughing, trash talking, mocking etc. and just really as you said unsportsmanlike things, refs should be allowed to do that in rep especially v.c cause it is way out of order and really un-professional! I'm just curious if they can do that.
I'd go and have a word to the coach first, give him the chance to bring his kids back into line. If he failed to do so, then the T would be warranted, maybe even on him.

Steph
04-05-2005, 04:49 PM
That seems fair enough, thanks for that.

I wouldn't mind at all if refs did it more often, just to give coaches and players the wake up call that it actually does go against you and that it's not acceptable.

Franklin
04-05-2005, 10:05 PM
My kids dont trash talk or anything like that. They're still at an age where they're scared of their parents, if not me! It's just that they can be very , umm, exuberant? about winning.

And I don't really have a bench I can run: they all get equal time in every game. There's only 2 kids who have actually played comp basketball before: the rest have only played in a school carnival. SO I "reward" the 2 kids who've played before by benching them?? (one's my son!) But they do get subbed just like the all the other kids in the team.

Stigma
04-05-2005, 11:47 PM
I think it depends on how old they are. If they're Under 10s/12s, you'll find that they actually empathise a lot with the opposition if you ask them how they would feel if they were getting beaten. Once it gets out to 10 or 15 points, I'll pull them back to the three point line so the other team have a chance at getting the ball over.

Last week, the second half my girls were only allowed to dribble with their left hand, and in the last quarter they could only shoot left-handed. It was great practice for them - things really evened up. We only scored about 6 points I think in the final quarter. My greatest problem coaching that age is they can overdo it, and they basically help the other team get down the court, which I don't think makes the opposition feel very good.
I hope that doesn't sound too cocky. The only reason my young team are any good is that we have a couple of outstanding players. If they don't come, things tend to be very close indeed. I'm very fortunate as a coach to happen to have them.

At the teenage level, if they're really obnoxious and you're comfortably up, start taking them off if they keep it up. If you finish with two or three players and lose the game as a result, so be it. They have to learn early that there's nothing worse than a bad winner. :x

Stigma

Ups
05-05-2005, 12:03 AM
On Offence I would set a goal for every player to score lets say 6,8 or 10 points and untill each player has reached that goal the can't score another bucket! So they would be practicing passing, rebounding and maybe screens to get players open.

Or they could just shoot 3pointers or as Stigma said they could use their non dominate hand to dribble and shoot!

On Defence I would just drop them back them into a tight zone and only in the key!

But try to give bench playing more playing time!

Stigma
05-05-2005, 01:50 PM
Don't forget Ups, that before Under-16s, it's illegal to play ZONE, so you need to be careful.

Stigma

Ups
05-05-2005, 02:06 PM
Don't forget Ups, that before Under-16s, it's illegal to play ZONE, so you need to be careful.

Stigma

Sorry Stigma, I had Know Idea about that because I've never coached juniors :oops: I have only coached Under18 Girls upwards!

Homer
05-05-2005, 05:01 PM
Don't forget Ups, that before Under-16s, it's illegal to play ZONE, so you need to be careful. Stigma

That varies Stigma, from state to state, stadium to stadium.

I know where young Bart plays, they only have to play 1 on 1 in the first half.

RandyOrton
06-05-2005, 12:23 AM
Zone in Under 14s is illegal in all representative level tournaments and competitions across Australia, Homer.

It is very strictly policed at the U/14 Nationals and U/14 Country Cup in Albury.

06-05-2005, 12:32 AM
a good zone will look like man to man
and a good man to man will look like the more traditional zone

Blind Teddy
06-05-2005, 01:25 AM
Old Teddy here.... I've just got back from a huge session with the boys at the pub and we discussed this very question tonight.
I've found that most teams who have been given a good spanking have excuses. Its generally a case of turning up with
1. Best Player injured
2. So and so sick
3. You name it they've got an excuse etc.....
In all championship grades if you can give someone a spanking you should.
Its not very often your able to hand one out and have no fear that if the opposition could do it to you. They would.
Who said everybody deserved an even break.
Next time I think of a new invention I'm going to tell everybody because i dont deserve to make a fortune on my own..
This stuff is Character Building.

Stigma
06-05-2005, 09:30 AM
Sorry, I thought we were referring to junior grades. If it's A-Grade Men then they're fair game. However, an Under-10s team, division 1 or not, are not fair game.

Stigma 8)