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05-05-2005, 01:47 PM
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Steph
05-05-2005, 01:51 PM
Straight up

the only time i'd say give them baseline or side line is if they were slow and you could count on help defence.

RandyOrton
05-05-2005, 03:08 PM
fooled again! I played wing defence in mixed netball and was hoping to find some tips here!

Coaches Couch
06-05-2005, 01:01 PM
depends on who you play , i have coached games where striaght has done it ,where baseline has done it & same with middle....
Some teams you play them to their merits ....what ever it takes to win games and kids should be able to play all its our job.

Wallitron
06-05-2005, 01:48 PM
I disagree.

Court spacing is vitally important on offense. Almost every offense has an offensive player wide on the weak side. See:
http://www.cybersportsusa.com/hooptacti ... eguide.asp (http://www.cybersportsusa.com/hooptactics/offensiveguide.asp)

If you can get the ball into the lane, you can then feed the ball either direction with a shorter pass.

However, if you send the ball towards one sideline, your weak side offensive threat is much further from the ball. Their defender has a much better opportunity to help. If their player gets the ball via a skip pass, it's a longer pass which gives more time to recover.

So playing man to man, I think there is always an advantage to sending them towards baseline. This is less effective in a zone, but I think still worthwhile.

It has the other advantage in that if you like to trap, all your trap zones on the court are at the sideline. Check out:
http://www.cybersportsusa.com/hooptacti ... eckPts.asp (http://www.cybersportsusa.com/hooptactics/sosdefense/sosGraphicCheckPts.asp)

06-05-2005, 02:59 PM
I know as a player.. i loved it when people wanted to force me baseline

I would take one dribble baseline and pull up for a 13 footer!!!

too easy..
By playing straight, the offensive player has to make a move to beat you, he cant just take what you give him as you give him nothing!

Players are more liekly to turn it over trying to do something then they are using a option the defence gives them!

Wallitron
06-05-2005, 05:06 PM
I know as a player.. i loved it when people wanted to force me baseline

I would take one dribble baseline and pull up for a 13 footer!!!

That's just poor defense, why would they need to sag off and give up a jump shot if:
1. They know they have weak side help?
2. They know which way you're going to drive?

The mistake they were making is overplaying your drive, not forcing you baseline. Perhaps they don't trust their weak side help?


Basketball at the highest level is a game where a team scores on average every second trip down the floor. This proves that the defense is at a fairly huge disadvantage, as compared to a game like soccer.


When playing defense on ball, the offense can do one of three things. If I know for a fact that I'll have help if I'm beaten off the dribble, I can close out harder. Harder close out means it's harder to pass or shoot. If my position relative to the basket means I know you're going baseline, I can close out harder still.

You end up closing out so hard they can't pass or shoot, they have to drive to the baseline, straight into the help.

Coachpete
06-05-2005, 07:28 PM
As a general rule I favour forcing baseline. At a higher level and with the right calibre of player I teach straddle the non pivot foot. If that foot can't go anywhere then you win the contest

06-05-2005, 10:02 PM
generally when teams are forcing wing players to drive baseline, you can take 1, 2 dribble regardless of the help or if they are over playing the drive..

it was good, because help d or no help d, overplay or sag off.. they still are giving me 1 dribble!

Any decent player should be money off the one dribble into the mid range jumper.. defence or no defence.. its still just a mid range jumper....