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Dene15
30-09-2009, 01:59 PM
Well, it's that time of year again where the WNBL season creeps up. Here I was thinking that it didn't start til next week. But hey, all the better!
So here are my predictions for the ladder, season awards etc.

1. Sydney Flames. Can't go past this lineup. Batkovic, Porter, Afeaki, Smith, Butler and that's just the starting lineup. To have players like Domkins and Potoki coming off the bench to help is simply an amazing array of talent. I think the only thing that could trouble this team is chemistry and injuries. If all goes well, I'm not sure this team will struggle too much. I definitely won't say they are unbeatable, because there are a couple other teams who could also take top spot, but right now, on paper, this team is the best. Would love to know how Sydney had the money to buy all these players. Possibly the best lineup in WNBL history? Couldn't be far off...

2. Bulleen-Melbourne Boomers. The top three spots were a bit tricky to predict. Especially 2nd and 3rd place. I don't think Bulleen have a better lineup than Canberra but I do rate Tom Maher as an exceptional coach. Certainly the signing of Elizabeth Cambage is huge. Here's hoping her move to the Boomers from the AIS takes her further than that of Grima. Penaluna has gone from strength to strength and with a back court of Milner, Glaubitz, O'Hea and Zavecz, this will surely be a tough team to beat.

3. Canberra Capitals. No doubt the 09/10 season could be another championship season for the Caps. But unlike the the previous, this year could have a few challenges facing the current champions. The back court is excellent. And I'm happy to see they signed a point guard with some experience oversees to assist Hurst. The signing of Wilson was huge and I think she will be a very good pickup. The only problems I see with this team are injuries. Bishop will be out until December and it is unclear how long she will take to get back into rhythm and Beatty is injured but will play limited minutes. This means Tolo will have to stand strong and McCormack is a bit of an unknown to the league, so I'm unsure how she will go. Although, I believe a championship is a definite possibility, I'm a bit unconvinced the injured front court will be able to stand up against the likes of Sydney and Bulleen.

4. Adelaide. I'll rate this Lightning team as being not bad but not great. They've signed Shelly Burston (nee Hammonds) which could help them immensely in the front court. But she is injury prone. It's great to see Camino is back, but I've heard she has injured herself which could be a problem. The loss of Gahan is pretty big and I'm not sure the Lightning have necessarily filled that hole. This team is defiantly strong and will give the top three a good shake. But they have a lot of inconsistencies, particularly lead by their hot and cold captain. Their coaching is also a bit of a concern.

5. Bendigo Spirit. The 5,6,7 and 8 spots are hard to predict. I don't rate this team highly, but of course with Kristi Harrower on board, she could definitely lift this team. They've also signed a Canadian import named Chelsea Aubry who will give the spirit some much needed help in the post.

6. Logan Thunder. This team certainly proved their worth last season, and with a similar lineup to last with the addition of a Polish post player named Marta Dydek (Any relations to Margo?), this team has the ability to go pretty far and wouldn't surprise me if they got higher than 6th on the ladder.

7. Townsville Fire. Poor Townsville. They have such a good following up there but their star recruit is out for the first part of the season which will probably hurt them. They have signed Rush, an American Import to replace Jen Crouse. Although they did very well last year, this team hasn't changed much from last season, and I believe they needed another good signing to boost their chances. Other teams have and therefore, I'm not sure we'll see this team do as well in 09/10.

8. Dandenong Rangers. I'd be feeling a bit blase if I were a Rangers fan this season. They have signed two American imports, and they got Megan Moody. but i've heard next to nothing about the two U.S girls and therefore am unable to judge how well they will help the team. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh. Maybe the should probably be placed further up the ladder. But when I look at the usual lineup of the Ryan crew, I feel like it's more of the same.

9. AIS. I know almost nothing about the players on the AIS team, but I placed them 9th because I thought they deserved a bit more respect than last. good luck to them. Let's see some more rising talent come out of the AIS!

10. Perth Lynx. Meh, nothing to say really. They signed an American import to replace Brown, but lost Smith. Hopefully they can get a win or two. Maybe they will receive a boost when they move into their new home stadium mid-season.

All Star 5.
C- Batkovic
PF- Cambage
SF- Wilson
SG- Smith
PG- Harrower

MVP
Batkovic-Brown

Defensive Player.
Kelly Abrams. Doubt she'll get it, but probably deserves it in my opinion.

Most Improved.
Marianna Tolo/Kristen Veal. I know, not an actual WNBL award. But this could be a breakout season for Tolo and with Veal having a relatively average season last year, she may be able to get back on top with a solid Thunder outfit.

Andy K
30-09-2009, 02:55 PM
Perth have signed 2 quality imports and will surprise a few teams this year, Danielle Campbell who is a big inside girl & Takia Starks who is a penetrating guard. I doubt they will finish below the AIS and maybe even push for the 5th and final playoff spot behind Sydney, Adelaide, Bulleen & Canberra.
I think Sydney will finish first followed by Adelaide, Bulleen & Canberra. 5th spot is defiantly up for grabs.
I look forward to this season but will miss watching the Live Friday night matches. All we get on the box now is highlights on Sat afternoon. BOOOOOOO to the ABC.

armchair_coach
30-09-2009, 03:05 PM
I like
Bulleen - think they have the goods to win it all
Sydney - Very talented but the Dalton factor might kick in come final
Caps - not a great roster, but Graffie will keep them there abouts
Adelaide - think they have talent but will not match the top 3 teams
Dandenong - no reason, but they cant continue to stink it up
Logan - Veal and the gang might be tougher in 2010
Bendigo - Will tie with Perth
Perth - will tie with Bendigo
AIS - Welcome back Phil

MVP - Smith (Syd)
Improved Tolo & Cambage
Defensive player - whom ever the ref's let hold players aka Macca style. If that doesn't work and Kristi is motivated, then Harrower it is.

Leftfield
30-09-2009, 03:28 PM
My top 5 are:

1. Canberra - I don't expect them to finish on top at the end of the regular season, but come finals their experience and defensive capabilities will make the difference. Whether the Grand Final is in Canberra or not, they'll give 110% and more than likely come out on top.

2. Sydney - Probably have the best roster, but with the number of changes it is going to take time before they begin to gel. I also have doubts about Porter in pressure games, she tends to dissappear.

3. Bulleen - I'm not sure if they are going to be any better than last year, but they will again be competitive.

4. Adelaide - rate the roste, don't rate the coach.

5. Bendigo - will be competitve but lacking the depth to match it with the top teams.


MVP: Renae Camino
Most Improved: Marianna Tolo
DPOTY: Kellie Abrams. Should have won it '06-07 when she played a majority of the season at SF, will hopefully get her deserved recognition this season.

Andy K
30-09-2009, 03:41 PM
I like
Bulleen - think they have the goods to win it all
Sydney - Very talented but the Dalton factor might kick in come final
Caps - not a great roster, but Graffie will keep them there abouts
Adelaide - think they have talent but will not match the top 3 teams
Dandenong - no reason, but they cant continue to stink it up
Logan - Veal and the gang might be tougher in 2010
Bendigo - Will tie with Perth
Perth - will tie with Bendigo
AIS - Welcome back Phil

MVP - Smith (Syd)
Improved Tolo & Cambage
Defensive player - whom ever the ref's let hold players aka Macca style. If that doesn't work and Kristi is motivated, then Harrower it is.


You forgot Townsville, not that they will achive too much this season.

armchair_coach
30-09-2009, 03:59 PM
Sorry, slot Townsville in between Dandenong and Logan. Dont like their chances without Roey

Dene15
30-09-2009, 04:26 PM
Caps - not a great roster

You don't think a team with Bishop, Tolo, Wilson, Bibby, Hurst to name a few is pretty great? Tough judge...

Andy K
01-10-2009, 08:39 AM
You don't think a team with Bishop, Tolo, Wilson, Bibby, Hurst to name a few is pretty great? Tough judge...


Tough judge? You don't call a team with Francis, Hammonds (Burston), Camino, Foley, Marino, Newley, Wallbutton, Woosnam & Duke great?

armchair_coach
01-10-2009, 09:21 AM
My thoughts on the Caps was they are not as deep as previous years. Bishop will miss games, Bibby injury prone and that leaves much of the scoring on Wilson's shoulders early on. I still think they are top three material and maybe Graf can get them into another grand final. But remember Bibby has been used as a spark player off the bench and her now having to log bigger minutes might tell on her body. Also with bibby and Hurst this team might be found out a little defending bigger guards.

While I think Tolo will improve, she has a lot on her shoulders in the early part of the season without Bishop.

For the first time in a while they do have concerns with their roster. That is all I am saying

Dene15
01-10-2009, 11:03 AM
Tough judge? You don't call a team with Francis, Hammonds (Burston), Camino, Foley, Marino, Newley, Wallbutton, Woosnam & Duke great?

Well, let's see. Francis-yes, Hammonds-definitely a good player, but very much injury prone. Camino- yes, but going by how she played a few years ago in the WNBL, she does have a lot to work on, but i'm sure being in Europe for a couple seasons has improved her. Foley- On her day, yes. But As I've stated before, inconsistent. Marino- Haha, no. Newly-Yet to be impressed. Wallbutton-think we had this discussion a while back. No. Not yet, anyway. Woosnam- Average season last year, and not getting any younger. Duke- Actually have to say she was very impressive last season. If she can improve on that, then she will be a good WNBL player.

So to answer you question, Adelaide has a pretty darn good roster, but not top three quality IMO.

ghost who walks
01-10-2009, 12:49 PM
IMO - Canberra, Sydeny and Bullen you could throw a hat over - all good sides with great balance.

Would have to say GF between Bulleen & Caps due to the coaching.

Adelaide and Bendigo will round out the top 5 - With the Fire making a late run.

Logan, Dandenong and Perth around the mix and will definately scare some teams but not enough top liners to to threaten - but rate Logan due to the Veal / Grahem Factor ahead of the others.

The depleted AIS group to rebuild under Brown for the coming season ahead.

MVP: Harrower - Bendigo
Most Improved: Cambage - Bulleen
DPOY:Wilson - Caps
Coach Of Year - Dalton (Recruiting = Improvement)

rondo
01-10-2009, 02:14 PM
Marta Dydek is Margos sister

JB
02-10-2009, 09:45 AM
Ladder order at the end of the season. Canberra will perform well in the finals and will only focus on getting there during the regulr season. Assumes Logan has both towers playing.

1 Sydney
2 Bulleen
3 Canberra
4 Adelaide
5 Logan
6 Dandenong
7 Townsville
8 Bendigo
9 AIS
10 Perth

Tipping Sydney over Canberra (or possibly Adelaide) in the Grand Final

MVP - Foley

Angel_Baby
02-10-2009, 10:25 AM
It's a shame that the Caps are having such problems this year with injuries etc. But if I have to choose, I would say that this is my prediction of final placings:

1. Bulleen
2. Canberra
3. Sydney
4. Adelaide
5. Logan
6. Bendigo
7. Townsville
8. Dandenong
9. Perth
10. AIS

The top 5 will be interesting though, I don't think there is one absolute stand out team. Each of the top 5 (especially the top 3) have strengths and weakness' that even them all up. Caps have to integrate players back in and have pressure on younger/new players to step up due to people being out, Sydney have Dalton and Porter (no more need be said) and Bulleen don't have as strong a bench as other teams. But it's going to be a great season anyway.

Dene15
02-10-2009, 12:50 PM
A quick mention about the new jerseys. They look really good and nice to see Adelaide has ditched the navy-blue and gone with red. Makes one less team wearing dark blue this season.

Also looks like the Opals may have ditched the body suit. About time!

Observer
02-10-2009, 01:19 PM
All we get on the box now is highlights on Sat afternoon. BOOOOOOO to the ABC.

Plus LIVE games on Saturday in a large number of cases including the GF Replay tomorrow!

Dene15
02-10-2009, 02:32 PM
Huh, when is the GF replay tomorrow? TV guide says caps V boomers but I can't find a GF replay.

Dr Damage
03-10-2009, 06:50 PM
My 2c worth:
1 Bulleen
2 Sydney
3 Canberra
4 Adelaide
5 Logan
6 Bendigo
7 Dandenong
8 Townsville
9 Perth
10 AIS

Logan will be underrated, imho. great coach with passionate team.
Bulleen are just too big and well coached
Sydney ?Can they bring the group together??
Caps will get better as the season progresses

Daylight


Adelaide have the money/ players but half the season in the first month...9 games. Injuries will not allow a winning season. Stupid recruiting
Townsville mail is that Roey wont be back soon
The rest Blah!