SEABL 2010

[puzzle_12]

Official notice of the Canberra Gunners situation from ACT Basketball website

http://www.act.basketball.net.au/fs_newsitem.asp?id=85695&orgID=10&Oname=BACT&O1c=12&O10c=2

Least it is all sorted a fair while before the season starts. I guess we will be expecting a typical Gunners team for this year!

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It's a little concerning that the Cannons consortium couldn't raise enough funds for an SEABL team.

[curious]

Ricky Daniels on the way back for Harvey and the Braves.
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/news/local/sport/general/daniels-poised-for-return-to-court-with-braves/1718554.aspx
Plus expect a few more exciting Braves signings soon.

[CoachYT]

It's a little concerning that the Cannons consortium couldn't raise enough funds for an SEABL team.

No, from what I undertand, they couldn't raise the money for what they saw as required to run the SEABL team. The Cannons consortium 'vision' included playing out of the AIS Arena, having a paid roster and a more entertainment-based game night presentation.

The Gunners have operated as a local team, playing out of Belconnen for the past 8 years and Tuggeranong before that, and as the support act to the NBL Cannons before that. They have a proud tradition of all-local amateurs playing against semi-professional teams, and put on a great night of men's basketball.

Obviously the two ideals of the Cannons versus the current Gunners are "poles apart", and IMO Basketball ACT could do more to encourage and foster the men's game in Canberra, but again in my opinion the answer isn't in trying to wind the clock back to the good ole' days, when in reality the world has moved on, and the landscape is so significantly different

Elite Men's Basketball in Canberra, is definetly nearing a most significant cross-roads, and amongst the myriad of factors that will make-up the future direction include:
- the National Underpinning League;
- the sustainability of the Capitals;
- availability and suitability of a 1.5 to 3 k seat venue; and
- growth in the economic support and/or possible rationalising of elite sporting teams in Canberra.

I think once these four factors are more certain, you may well see two NUL teams (one of each gender) operating out of Canberra, being equally community and corporately supported, definetly better and more equitably (across the genders) funded, and most likely playing out of a venue that is operated by Basketball ACT.

When, now that is the question....

[Fred]

Just thought I would throw it out there and get people's thought's on the league going to 3 ref's in the mens league this year?

Does the league need 3 ref's?

Does the league have the depth of ref's to do it?

[Factor]

The league needs and deserves 3 refs, but to be honest unless they bring allot of them upto speed real quickly on the mechanics and areas of responsibility its going to be messy.
Realistically there isnt many refs in Vic (let alone elsewhere) who ref 3 man mechanics on a regular competent basis......
Its going to put allot of pressure on the level 1's to look after games...

[Melb Wildcat]

6 eyes are better than 4 eyes is my logic. It might take some of the refs (and players) a few games to get use to having them. It just makes the league more professional and should decrease the amount of mistakes made. In the long run it is definately for the best and will give more refs the chance to referee in SEABL.

[curious]

From what I am hearing already this SEABL season shapes uP to (possibly) be the best one ever.
Many teams are seeking quality imports, far more this season.
Looking forward to it immensely.

[Melb Wildcat]

I agree with curious. It is looking to be a very good season with almost any team being able to beat the more established/bigger teams.

I think it might be a very long season for Albury and Canberra. The AIS (in another short season) might find the going tough as well.

[Crocodile Rock]

Almost all teams have began pre-season training and rosters assembling, anyone wanna have a crack at previewing some teams... Easier if you're a local and have seen the squad first hand

Interesting reading I think

[curious]

Generally no teams have their rosters complete.
Bit early to judge with most imports not concluded, let alone all local content decided.
If all goes as I am hearing, it may be the best SEABL ever.

The crunch will be that some of the potential import signings live uP to the expectations that they already have O/S.

[Melb Wildcat]

Who are some of the potential imports curious that you have heard? Couldnt be many sports left for imports.

[curious]

Braves have 2 spots available.
Geelong 1 spot, Hobart 1 spot. They come to mind immediately. I am sure those involved with their own clubs can confirm what import vacancies still exist.
I am hearing of some (potentially) exciting imports to be announced.
BTW. Some teams haven't even started full pre season yet!!!
Yet others are training many times a week. This SEABL season could be the toughest on yet.

I also hear Daniel Egan will suit up for the Heat as well.

[Melb Wildcat]

Does that mean Hobart are going with 2 imports this season?
Charleston returning?


Who are the Heat?

[curious]

Heat are in Qld, sorry competing in the ABA, my error.
All teams have 2 import spots available. Long AFAIK is back for his 3rd season. I don't think Hobart have ever utilised the 2 import option (yet) ;)
Not every team can afford 2 imports (except Geelong ) ;) year in year out.
Braves to announce 2 new imports, plus Daniels as an Aussie will make them favourites ;)
Great times ahead me thinks for SEABL / ABA fans.

[A Higher Authority]

The league needs and deserves 3 refs, but to be honest unless they bring allot of them upto speed real quickly on the mechanics and areas of responsibility its going to be messy.
Realistically there isnt many refs in Vic (let alone elsewhere) who ref 3 man mechanics on a regular competent basis......
Its going to put allot of pressure on the level 1's to look after games...

Probably the reason the WBL is rumoured to be going back to 2 per game.
We had one and sometimes a second up to scratch per game, plus a smokey for the third who usually had no idea.

[the voice #31]

Whisper is Geelong and Bendigo locked in a fierce bidding war for an import, who is unbelievable. No nothing other than that. Rumored there is an import on the way that has some NBA experience.

[RedbackVenom]

Whisper is Geelong and Bendigo locked in a fierce bidding war for an import, who is unbelievable. No nothing other than that. Rumored there is an import on the way that has some NBA experience.

Surely you can give us mre info than that tantalising tidbit...

[the voice #31]

Surely you can give us mre info than that tantalising tidbit...

Don't know anymore than that i'm afraid. The only possible thing i've heard is - a college team mate of Ismail Muhammad and or the surname McFarlane being thrown around. Nothing other than that.

[Melb Wildcat]

Could it be Mario West or Anthong McHenry by some chance then? They both fit the bill.

[the voice #31]

Ivan McFarlin here he is rumored to be on the way no idea where http://www.nba.com/media/act_ivan_mcfarlin.jpg

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ivan-McFarlin-431/

[the voice #31]

Could it be Mario West or Anthong McHenry by some chance then? They both fit the bill.

No idea MW really don't... Sorry

[Clips]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/teams/gah/stats?year=2002

NBA players in the 2002 team include Will Bynum, Big Red, Jarret Jack, Mario West (apparently) and some bum called Chris Bosh.

[the voice #31]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/teams/gah/stats?year=2002

NBA players in the 2002 team include Will Bynum, Big Red, Jarret Jack, Mario West (apparently) and some bum called Chris Bosh.

Don't think this one has the NBA experience Clips. I was referring to Ivan McFarlin as the player with the Nba experience. Seperately i'm led to believe the guy that Bendigo and Geelong is a teammate of Ismail's @ college.

[curious]

McFarlin is one of them with another name being Myers.

[smittys07]

McFarlin is one of them with another name being Myers.

Shawn Myers? Who played for the Supercats in 06 and 07?

[curious]

I make no mention of the first name, as at this stage no announcement has occurred.
It may even be that this person doesn't get the gig. But that's the Surname I have heard rumoured ATM.

[the voice #31]

Shawn Myers? Who played for the Supercats in 06 and 07?

Myers would be 40 i think this year.

[Melb Wildcat]

Yeah he would be too old. He isnt too bad for 40 though.

[smittys07]

Myers would be 40 i think this year.

Hence why I asked, just didn't seem likely ...

[MLS]

Tariq Naqqash has reacquainted himself with Guy Molloy at Ballarat (http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/sport/general/ballarat-miners-unveil-the-latest-recruit/1724801.aspx), even though this article (http://www.starnewsgroup.com.au/story/83876) had him officially signed with Hume City for the upcoming Big V season.

[the voice #31]

Tariq Naqqash has reacquainted himself with Guy Molloy at Ballarat (http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/sport/general/ballarat-miners-unveil-the-latest-recruit/1724801.aspx), even though this article (http://www.starnewsgroup.com.au/story/83876) had him officially signed with Hume City for the upcoming Big V season.

Tariq's handy at this level. Guy's orgranisation will suit him to tea... Should have a good year.

[theFraudulentone]

should be an announcement on at least one import from albury in the near future...

[Melb Wildcat]

Well you would hope for Albury's sake thats true. :p If they leave it any longer they might be in trouble.

They did make an offer to Lester Strong though before he re-signed with Knox

[theFraudulentone]

one is signed...another all but signed...announcements soon...gonna need them to be solid, as the bandits have gone with a locals focus this year...could be a long season...

[Melb Wildcat]

It WILL be another long season for Albury men. Losing Gange really will hurt them, and even Watson started to show something last season. They really need a good Australian player to take the load off the imports. Dowdell playing anywere yet in the off-season as he would be a great pick up.

[bambam33]

1st Albury import is Ryan Bright, who played D-League for Austin Toros
http://www.bordermail.com.au/news/local/sport/basketball/bandits-look-on-bright-side/1726559.aspx

[Melb Wildcat]

Hope he can play! I also hope he can put bums in seats like Dez did as well.

Losing you 3 best Aussie players will hurt the bandits.

[cheapseats]

Lets hope he can play as with their losses Albury need a couple of quality players to ensure they can compete in the league.

[Marty Clarke]

Frankston Blues have signed 2nd import and are chasing an NBL big.NW Tasmainia are trialing Musa Bradley 204cm 125kg for an import spot.(cant find anything about him in google).Albury to sign Daniel Brigilia from Knox.Mt Gambier still have one import spot availible having resigned Kevin Smith from last year.

[MAIN_MAN]

Frankston Blues have signed 2nd import and are chasing an NBL big.NW Tasmainia are trialing Musa Bradley 204cm 125kg for an import spot.(cant find anything about him in google).Albury to sign Daniel Brigilia from Knox.Mt Gambier still have one import spot availible having resigned Kevin Smith from last year.

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/news/local/sport/basketball/the-beast-ready-to-bring-the-thunder/1730353.aspx

[Melb Wildcat]

Sam Harris has signed with a SBL team so he will not be back next season.

If Briglia goes to Albury should get some good minutes. He suffered a lot being on a deep Knox team.

[patm]

Frankston Blues have signed 2nd import and are chasing an NBL big.
Does this mean that Gruber is not playing in 2010?
I still haven't heard anything official.

[Marty Clarke]

He is staying in the Gong as his wife has a good job there.Hopefully he can put his feet up and give his body a rest.

[theFraudulentone]

bandits have a commitment from daniel briglia...think the only thing stoppin him from signin on dotted line is gettin a job up there...have heard that nick payne has chosen not to re-sign with knox as well...wonder if the bandits could lure him back...

[Marty Clarke]

Bragilia is a baker so it shouldnt be hard to find work in that area.

[smittys07]

Frankston Blues have signed 2nd import.

Chaz Briggs?

[the voice #31]

Bragilia is a baker so it shouldnt be hard to find work in that area.

It's Briglia...

[Marty Clarke]

Chaz Briggs is currently playing for the Thailand Tigers in the ASEAN league but he might just be taking up residence at a beach side suburb.

[Melb Wildcat]

I doubt Nick Payne will be back with the Bandits for a while at least. He has a job with a pretty good school in Melbourne, so couldnt see him leaving that.

I wouldnt be surprised if he signed with Sandy ---just my opinion.

[smittys07]

I wouldnt be surprised if he signed with Sandy ---just my opinion.

Based on what exactly?

[Melb Wildcat]

1. Location
2. Process of elimination (Albury, Knox)
3. I think Sandy might need a SG

Its just a guess!

[curious]

Apparently the Chargers have officially announced the signing of Brandon Polk.
Ex Butler University. Nothing online however.

[bambam33]

Its just a guess!

Umm, what if I was to tell you that Nick's wife has a job in A-W and will be moving back soon ...

[Melb Wildcat]

That might make some sense. It also goes with Alburys local talent approach they are trying to take this season. I just thought once you left Albury you dont return lol.

So Albury have tried to poach of of Knox's players ---Strong, Briglia, Payne?

[theFraudulentone]

That might make some sense. It also goes with Alburys local talent approach they are trying to take this season. I just thought once you left Albury you dont return lol.

So Albury have tried to poach of of Knox's players ---Strong, Briglia, Payne?

is it really poaching when the player contacts the club? wouldnt have thought....

wonder if payne had a word to briglia and told him bout the opportunities up in albury...hsould be interestin to see what unfolds over the comin weeks...

[Melb Wildcat]

Id call 'trying' to sign Lester Strong as poaching.

I didnt know of Payne going back to the bandits. He probably enjoys playing with those guys more anyway as most are mates he grew up with.

Will be good to see Briglia get some decent minutes. I think he might go close to a starting gig with the Bandits.

So far Bandits gained -- Bright (import) Payne, Briglia (in principle) and have a 2nd import position available.

Lost - Lockett, Williams, Quinn, Watson and Gange.

[theFraudulentone]

didnt know bout the lester strong attempts..news to me...

and lookin at the gains, understandin that not all are locked in, i would say that they much out weigh the loses from last year...obviously have to wait and see what bright is like, but reports are positive, other import is a question mark, briglia is a solid player who has been stuck in a deep team and payne if he returns will offer more than quinn and gange put together! possibly watson will be the only major loss...

[smittys07]

I didnt know of Payne going back to the bandits. He probably enjoys playing with those guys more anyway as most are mates he grew up with.


Like who? ... there is absolutely no-one - except for Matt de Koeyer (who is currently on holiday OS, no guarantees he'll play when he returns either) on the current roster that Payne has previously played with, let alone grew up with. (Aside from Briglia at Knox, obviously).
If Bandits can sign Briglia and JP Wilkinson, to go along with Bright and another import big, then that's a handy frontcourt rotation.

[the voice #31]

MW, wouldn't be poaching on a player (Strong) if he was out of contract, which he was. Same could be said for Kilsyth and Lockett if that was the case.

Briglia will start for the Bandits and will have a good year. Daniel's solid and like you've all stated has mired on a deep team, opportunity to play will be the key for him.

The Payne situation's the key for Bandits. Hope it all work's out Smitty. What are the chances of getting someone like McKerrow back to run the show?

[the voice #31]

Apparently the Chargers have officially announced the signing of Brandon Polk.
Ex Butler University. Nothing online however.

Found this it's not video or anything but has plenty of info. Great college numbers and not bad in Euro either by the looks, could be a suprise... http://www.eurobasket.com/player.asp?Cntry=FIN&PlayerID=31610

[smittys07]

The Payne situation's the key for Bandits. Hope it all work's out Smitty. What are the chances of getting someone like McKerrow back to run the show?

Nil I would've thought (but I've been wrong before ;-)). AFAIK he's still living in Canada. Jack Duck (Alex's bro) will certainly be getting some minutes this year as the PG of the future.

[the voice #31]

Nil I would've thought (but I've been wrong before ;-)). AFAIK he's still living in Canada. Jack Duck (Alex's bro) will certainly be getting some minutes this year as the PG of the future.

Didn't know of the Canadian situation mate, sorry :).

Might not get a chance to wait for the future mate. Nothing like being thrown in at the deep end to make a player better. Sink or swim... You'll soon find out.

[Melb Wildcat]

I thought Nick Payne would know more than just Matt Koeyer. I thought he would know Hales and Oates as well (if they are still with the team).

Isnt de Koeyer the captain? Id expect him to be back from overseas by then surely? Who would replace him as captain? Payne?

I wonder if Albury will go with an import PG this season. Without Watson and Lockett it seems the logical position to get an import. Good to see Albury giving some of their juniors a run if Jack Duck gets a game. If he contributes half as well as his sister did then he will be handy player. Id rther see Duck get developed then bring back an older guy like Mckerrow anyway.

I think the big loss for Albury was Gange ---doesnt seem to get rated but he can play.

Kilsyth never poached Lockett ---Lockett was told by Albury that unless he got his knees checked out then they wouldnt sign him. As it turned out he refused (so the story goes) and he went to Kilsyth.

[bambam33]

Oates didn't play last season as he switched to footy.
Broady Mills has also switched to footy.
De Koeyer has been living it up big time O/S - Hangover style ;) - so who knows what sort of shape he'll be in when he gets back.
Duck was on the roster last year and got limited minutes but should be ready to make an impact ... he's got talent and a good head on his shoulders.
Watson is the big loss for mine, simply out-hustled everyone else on court and scared people with his incredible guns ;)
Also, if Payne does return, it's not likely until at least around Easter.

[the voice #31]

Id rther see Duck get developed then bring back an older guy like Mckerrow anyway.

McKerrow was a very serviceable guy and as they have lost for well at least the 7-8 years i've been watching didn't think it'd be such a bad idea as to get someone back who could actutally help. No offence to anyone involved with the program i.e Smitty, but there just clearly isn't depth of junior talent to pick from, in A-W. Apart from De Koeyer in the last 5-6 years I haven't seen a junior come through and hold a spot. So recriuting must be the only way to go.

I don't feel it's about development with these guys due to the lack of junior talent, so if Duck can get a go then great be he'll have to contribute in a big way due to lack of depth.


I think the big loss for Albury was Gange ---doesnt seem to get rated but he can play.

A shooting guard in a point guard's body with a shooting guard's mentality and, if you spell Matt Gange you'll find there's no "D" in it.


Kilsyth never poached Lockett Never, ever said they did. I said "If Albury had gone after Lester - which has been reported - then with him being out of contract - which he was - it wouldn't be poaching! It would be the same situation as Lockett signing with Kilsyth, an out of contract player going to another club" - NOT CONSIDER POACHING!!! Maybe you should have a good look before replying!!! Lockett was told by Albury that unless he got his knees checked out then they wouldnt sign him. As it turned out he refused (so the story goes) and he went to Kilsyth.

I hope for your teams sake he doesn't have any problems, would be a big loss for the Cobras.

[bambam33]

if you spell Matt Gange you'll find there's no "D" in it.


LOL ... can't argue with that. Gold!

[Melb Wildcat]

Nick Payne is another Albury junior who has held a spot, albeit he did leave. Still another player (and very good) who has come through the system. They have had a few guys leave for football too.

Albury I heard have just started a program to develop youth talent for the Bandits. I think its the way to go and better than recruiting talent that stays for a season than leaves. Hopefully someone like J Duck can get 10 minutes a game this season.

[smittys07]

No offence to anyone involved with the program i.e Smitty, but there just clearly isn't depth of junior talent to pick from, in A-W. Apart from De Koeyer in the last 5-6 years I haven't seen a junior come through and hold a spot. So recriuting must be the only way to go.
I don't feel it's about development with these guys due to the lack of junior talent, so if Duck can get a go then great be he'll have to contribute in a big way due to lack of depth.

None taken, I have no involvement with the program.
MW, yes, Oates did play with Payne and was another who came through the system and then quit to play footy full-time. Hales is now living in Bateman's Bay, and he never played with Payne in any case.
And you think they need to sign an import PG? Good lord, did you actually watch them at all last year? They were constantly monstered by bigger teams. No, I would strongly suspect they'll get another import big to go with Bright and take their chances that teams try to beat them from the perimeter.
And I agree with bambam33, Watson's defensive presence will be sorely missed.
They'll give a few younger players a legitimate chance to find their feet at this level over the next three years. The bigger question for me is how many of these players will actually be good enough. But you can only try.

[Melb Wildcat]

Yeah smitty was only able to watch the Bandit men play 2 times last season -- a good win over Kilsyth ---and another game where they got murdered by Knox. LAST season they had Watson at PG and with his departure there is a huge position to fill ---possibly most important on team. I watched the Albury girls about 5 times though lol.

My suggestion for an import PG is because Watson has left as has Lockett, and no real other options (Payne maybe?). In the games i saw Watson and Lockett did the majority of the PG work.

They do lack height I must admit, so will be interesting if they prefer another big or PG. I do agree they were beaten by bigger teams last season. Could get ugly though if you dont have a good PG. Id much rather have payne at SG.

Get Dowdell back, then sign a PG lol.

[bambam33]

In the games i saw Watson and Lockett did the majority of the PG work.

Don't think Dez played any PG last season, DeKoeyer, Hales and James Quinn rotated through.
Fernandez was always played at C for the Bandits ... an undersized C mind you, but when you've got a vertical like that, who cares!

Get Dowdell back, then sign a PG lol.
See, you're really not that silly ... not a bad idea, although the player I'm sure the Bandits would have back in a heartbeat would be Brad Sheridan ... ultimate team guy, super long and hard to stop in this league,

[the voice #31]

Don't think Dez played any PG last season, DeKoeyer, Hales and James Quinn rotated through.
Fernandez was always played at C for the Bandits ... an undersized C mind you, but when you've got a vertical like that, who cares!


See, you're really not that silly ... not a bad idea, although the player I'm sure the Bandits would have back in a heartbeat would be Brad Sheridan ... ultimate team guy, super long and hard to stop in this league,

Brad's done bambam. I worked with his brother. Won't be back...

[Melb Wildcat]

In the games I saw Ferris was definately the centre and had his best game of the season against Werner/Kilsyth. In this game Williams was injured (missed about a quarter with a blood nose if I recall). Lockett was taking the ball up and nailing threes with Quinn all over the place. Watson did play the majority of the PG though in this game.

The game against Knox Lockett was used in the post a fair bit, but the game was over in the first 5 minutes.

The reason I said Dowdell was because he almost returned last season (I think the Wildcats contract negotiations stopped him). He has been a dominant player in the past and at around 6'8 wouldnt be bad to have.

Question ---Do you really want Matt de Koeyer to start at PG and have Duck as the back-up? Id being saying no.

[Crocodile Rock]

So I know a few pre-season / trial games are underway does anyone have any results or comments from the games....

I heard Mt. Gambier played Adelaide 36ers academy this weekend with almost a full team, does anyoe from down there wanna fill us in

What is their full squad and who is yet to arrive or sign

[smittys07]

The reason I said Dowdell was because he almost returned last season (I think the Wildcats contract negotiations stopped him). He has been a dominant player in the past and at around 6'8 wouldnt be bad to have.

Question ---Do you really want Matt de Koeyer to start at PG and have Duck as the back-up? Id being saying no.

You're right, but the problem would be money. They're paying the imports and that's it. That's why the likes of Briglia and Wilkinson need to find work before they come up here. The club can't afford to pay anyone except the imports and I doubt Dowdell would come down from Qld to play for the love of the game.

In answer to your question, well, those two could well be the starting backcourt for round 1, with de Koeyer at SG. I'd rather have that backcourt with 2 import bigs thanks. At least that way they won't get murdered inside.

[Melb Wildcat]

Just murdered when teams put a full court press on :p

[bambam33]

It's not an ideal backcourt, but I really think young Duck will surprise a few people this year.
He's had a year in the system and seems to have a level head, not to mention speed and skill.
I might be horribly wrong, but local development has gotta come up trumps eventually ;)

[smittys07]

Just murdered when teams put a full court press on :p

Point taken, but they can't do that for 40 minutes can they? Big teams don't get any smaller ...

[Melb Wildcat]

I dout very many teams will need to press Albury for 40 minutes anyway :)

Will be interesting what position Albury use for their next import. Thinking about it Im kinda surprised they signed up Bright as 1st import (a SF?) when I thought they would try an get someone taller.

Means Albury possibly look a bit like this at the moment.

C - Import?
PF - Briglia,
SF - Bright, wilkinson, Asquith
SG - Payne,
PG - Dekoeyer, Duck

[smittys07]

Means Albury possibly look a bit like this at the moment.
C - Import?
PF - Briglia,
SF - Bright, wilkinson, Asquith
SG - Payne,
PG - Dekoeyer, Duck

Firstly, Asquith has never been a SF, and secondly, has signed with Chiltern to play footy this year.
And thirdly, Payne will not be available - and that's assuming he is coming - until end of March at the earliest.
Make Wes (de Koeyer) your starting SG for now, and that's assuming he plays when he gets back from his liver destruction of Europe ;-)

[Melb Wildcat]

I must admit the positions of the Bandits are hard to put down as they have many guys who play a few positions. Who are the returning bandits from last season then? Anyone apart from DeKoeyer nd Duck (who got like 3 games last season)? Sam McDonald? Webb?

Another long season it looks like.

Damn I think I could get a game for the Bandits this year! Would they need a 6'5 rebounding forward? lol

[smittys07]

I must admit the positions of the Bandits are hard to put down as they have many guys who play a few positions. Who are the returning bandits from last season then? Anyone apart from DeKoeyer nd Duck (who got like 3 games last season)? Sam McDonald? Webb?
Damn I think I could get a game for the Bandits this year! Would they need a 6'5 rebounding forward? lol

McDonald and Webb will both be back at this stage, as far as I know.
Bobby Tye, who sat at the end of the bench in the last couple of years with Jim Wilson at the helm, has also been training with them. Depth, as always will be a critical issue for them.
So, yes, in answer to your query, they need height. Lots of it ;-)

[Marty Clarke]

Mt Gambier signs 2nd Import: (http://www.seabl.com.au/index.php?id=207&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=986&tx_ttnews[backPid]=52&cHash=b86ca080c3)

NCAA Division 2 Player.Was playing ABA but the team he was playing for got into financial difficulties.

[Melb Wildcat]

Pioneers are looking OK on paper. I think they might cause a few upsets this season if they can gel. The new import might take pressure off Rice and Jeffree in terms of having to score as well.

Spartans again looking strong as well again with Cannon, Edmonds, Vanderjagt all returning. The team is also in talks with Demos, green, williamson and goulding. Either way looks like Brisbane will be up there.

[the voice #31]

Pioneers are looking OK on paper. I think they might cause a few upsets this season if they can gel. The new import might take pressure off Rice and Jeffree in terms of having to score as well.

Spartans again looking strong as well again with Cannon, Edmonds, Vanderjagt all returning. The team is also in talks with Demos, green, williamson and goulding. Either way looks like Brisbane will be up there.

They'll always be tough with those guys on the floor. Do we know who the coach is this year?

[A Higher Authority]

There's been rumour on the Waratah site that Graeme Dann has been looking for a SEABL spot - any rumours or talk on where he has been looking?

[Melb Wildcat]

I think Brisbane will be coached by ex Bullet Rodger Smith from what Ive been told, but he might also be an assistant.

Im sure a few teams would be happy to have Dann.

[Marty Clarke]

NW Tassie pass on Bradley as an import.Have other irons in the fire looking for a big.Expect several clubs to announce imports this week.

[the voice #31]

NW Tassie pass on Bradley as an import.Have other irons in the fire looking for a big.Expect several clubs to announce imports this week.

Bringing Knuckles back?? Heard a whisper he was keen to come back to the league...

[catcountry]

Supercats sign import J'Nathan Bullock out of Cleveland State as the second import joining Isma'il Muhammad for the 2010 season. Supercats have also announced their 2010 Squad, a few new faces, a few old, most of the core group retained. details here: http://www.supercats.com.au/content/view/651/1/

[theFraudulentone]

the bandits have signed Travis Gabbidon as their 2nd import for the season...and have just about finalised their squad for the 2010 season...i would expect a nice article to come from smittsy pretty soon...

having looked at his youtube highlights, he looks rather impressive!!! looks to have a bit of flair about him...

now just gotta hope the bandits can put it together in the next 6 weeks and hopefully provide a lil bit of competition....

here is the media release i received:

I would like to announce on behalf of the Coaching staff and Board of the
Commercial Club Bandits the signing of our 2nd import for the 2010 SEABL
Season.

Travis Gabbidon is a 201cm (6'7") 100kg (200pnd) Forward from the
University of Texas San Antonio (UTSA).

Travis graduated last May and during the 2008/09 Collegiate season had the
following stats:

32 Games - 12.6 points/game @ 40.7% - Free Throw 70.1% - 6.4 rebounds/game
- 1.7 assists/game - 1.3 steals/game

We are excited to have secured Travis as he will add some well needed size
to our squad but also brings versatility being able to play both the Power
and Small Forward positions. Travis is a very athletic young man and is
sure to bring some great intensity and excitement to both ends of the
court.

Travis has told us that he loves the game of basketball and wants to learn
and develop everyday. He loves playing up tempo basketball and using his
high pressure defence to kick start an exciting transition style on
offence.

Taylor Jenkins (Assistant Coach Austin Toros NBA D League) said that he had
a chance to watch Travis at the D League tryouts and San Antonio Spurs open
gym sessions during 2009 and was impressed at how hard he played at both
the offensive and defensive ends of the floor.

The Assistant Coach at UTSA, Jeff Renegar spoke highly of Travis. Coach
Renegar coached Travis at Junior College as well as UTSA and said he was a
terrific young man and will work very hard at his game as well as help
develop other players around him. Travis has a great work ethic and brings
it to every practice session and game.

We have recruited two imports this season that along with Dan Briglia, JP
Wilkinson, Scott Hare and Todd Dalton will give us one of the tallest front
line rotations we have had in some years. Add our local back court players
in Sam McDonald, Jack Duck, Bobby Tye, Caleb Martin, Chris Maclean, Chris
Merrilees, Dean Bensted, Matt Asquith, Aron Pantano and hopefully Matt de
Keoyer when he returns from his overseas trip and we have a squad that can
compete in the league this year and also develop with a vision for the
future.

[bambam33]

Travis does look the goods, also seems to LOVE taking it to the rack and getting the bumps.
Fernandez Lockett loved to throw it down last year but settled for a (inconsistent) jumpshot more often than not.
I think if Travis turns out to be a star, Albury Stadium may be renamed from 'The Hideout' to 'The Gabbatoir' ;)

[jjj]

any word on what canberra are doing this season. heard initially they might being going to pay some players but since the LJ deal for the caps this has apparently changed. any truth to that?

[Clips]

I'm not sure how much it has to do with the LJ deal, if anything, but my understanding is that the Gunners will once again be an 'amateur' team.

The squad is being finalized today I believe.

[Marty Clarke]

Interesting group of imports being assembled for the forthcoming season.Some clubs have gone with imports fresh out of college,some with international experience and some who have played here before.Still waiting to see who Bendigo sign as there 2nd import.

[the voice #31]

Interesting group of imports being assembled for the forthcoming season.Some clubs have gone with imports fresh out of college,some with international experience and some who have played here before.Still waiting to see who Bendigo sign as there 2nd import.

Here it is http://www.seabl.com.au/index.php?id=207&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=991&tx_ttnews[backPid]=52&cHash=fa486ea467

Called it a week ago.

[curious]

NW Tassie pass on Bradley as an import.Have other irons in the fire looking for a big.Expect several clubs to announce imports this week.
Dowdell is a rumour.

[bogut]

Can anyone tell me why Daniel Carlin and Lachlan Winter are no longer apart of he 2010 AIS program, according to the below site?

http://www.ausport.gov.au/ais/sports/basketball/athletes

[aussieBaller]

Not too sure why those boys left but I do know one has been added to the squad. Owen Odigie has been added. He's from Dandy. 6'5 Very Athletic. Powerful Player

[Marty Clarke]

McFarlin has been playing in Poland where he got cut Xmas day.He was averaging 3ppg 2rpg.Interesting to note that hes managed by Carl Reed who also looks after Fernandez Lockett and Drake Reed.
http://www.eurobasket.com/agency.asp?AgentNm=Reed%20Carl&AgencyNm=Reed%20Athlete%20Management

[sidelineviewer]

Albury certainly haven't lost anything from last seasons squad. Bobby Tye who has played in the CBL for past few seasons will be a really nice addition. He can hit the open shot and from what I hear has been training down the house. Although he is basically unheard of he will be in the running for some serious minutes.
Caleb Martin will also be another player to watch. He will probably be up there with the quickest of point guards in the league, he will compliment Jack Duck nicely off the bench.
Another guy who is on the roster is Aaron Pantano, I think he played in youth league 1 last year and played afew champonship games as a back up to Rhys Carter for Latrobe City. They did an article on him in the big v news letter and it was mentioned by a few coaches that once he gets fit he will be one of the best pure shooters in the league. If I remember he had 55pts in a bigv preseasons game.
I think these guys can certainly come in and really surprise a few people with their input throughout the season, but only time will tell. Anyone know about any other layers on the team?
Cheers
B

[bambam33]

Is that you Bobby???? ;)

[the voice #31]

Dowdell signs at NWT...

http://www.seabl.com.au/index.php?id=207&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=994&tx_ttnews[backPid]=52&cHash=ee1120c0f1

[curious]

try this link.
http://www.seabl.com.au/index.php?id=207&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=994&tx_ttnews[backPid]=206&cHash=cebc9ac06e

[Melb Wildcat]

Looks as if final Cobras team is as follows ---Lockett, Henderson, Lang, Shanahan, Bathie, O'Hea, Mulhall, Moore, Denton, Potts.

The team is definately a much younger team than last season and although they lack a bit of height have some talent on that roster. Will be interesting to see what positions Henderson and Dez play as both can play a few positions at this level.

[outer east]

Looks as if final Cobras team is as follows ---Lockett, Henderson, Lang, Shanahan, Bathie, O'Hea, Mulhall, Moore, Denton, Potts.

The team is definately a much younger team than last season and although they lack a bit of height have some talent on that roster. Will be interesting to see what positions Henderson and Dez play as both can play a few positions at this level.

Is DJ suiting up?

[the voice #31]

Is DJ suiting up?

Where are the point guards????

[cheapseats]

so there are a couple Kilsyth players in the team then Ha Ha Ha :p

[Melb Wildcat]

Yes DJ is also playing but I forgot to add him. I knew I forgot someone.

[Marty Clarke]

North West Tassie sign 2 new imports:
http://www.theadvocate.com.au/news/local/sport/basketball/thunder-gains-two-new-us-imports/1744570.aspx

[Marty Clarke]

Braves v Miners
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/news/local/sport/basketball/newlook-braves-impress-in-trial-match/1744493.aspx
Bandits news
http://www.bordermail.com.au/news/local/sport/basketball/briglia-confirms-hell-be-a-bandit/1744973.aspx

[bogut]

What is the final AIS team for 2010?

[Marty Clarke]

Nunawading sign import Matt Hall from Harding:
http://www.hardingsports.com/news/2008/4/26/08%20cbi%20all-star%20annoucement.aspx

[the voice #31]

Nunawading sign import Matt Hall from Harding:
http://www.hardingsports.com/news/2008/4/26/08%20cbi%20all-star%20annoucement.aspx

Check him out on You Tube as well...

Looks the goods...

[Factor]

Heard the SEABL tournament was cancelled this weekend? anyone know why?
Were some Clubs not able to field teams or were the refs "unavaliable" after their pay cuts?

[the voice #31]

Heard the SEABL tournament was cancelled this weekend? anyone know why?
Were some Clubs not able to field teams or were the refs "unavaliable" after their pay cuts?

Watched Sandy v Bendigo today @ 2, believe their was a couple of games @ 7 as well. Nuna pulled out due to lack of numbers.

For the record - Bendigo by a couple. They played hard. Probably at full strength i'd say. Sandy only had Dillon, Conn, Kye Patrick and Craig White were the regulars. No idea who the lefty (#14?) was for them any ideas anyone? Played some kids who looked ok? Taylor and Dejan someone? Any ideas anyone? Have to add Crosswell and Damien Ryan?? And Garlepp didn't play either.

Braves import - the shooter? Legit! Made probably first 6 from the floor and is a dead ringer for Mike Kelly! Not sold on McPharlin, competes real hard, still not sold on the complete package. Randall made a bunch of 3's in the 3rd and Tanner was solid. Other than that i could say they didn't go to deep.

Plenty of coaches in attendance as there was some mini conference on as well.

Any ideas on results tonight?

[Melb Wildcat]

Garlepp is currently injured. He was meant to be in the 36ers team to replace Gilchrist but i think suffered an ankle injury.

[smittys07]

Mt Gambier sack import Kevin Smith ...

http://www.borderwatch.com.au/archives/6353

[Melb Wildcat]

That s huge news from mt Gambier. The article states that kevin smith directly cost them the sponsership but doesnt say how this occurred which is odd. I was actually surprised that Mt Gambier were going to sign him again anyway as thought they could get a better import, but to sack him now is disgraceful. No other team really has any import positions available now so you can rule that out, unless he goes to a BigV club.

If money was the factor then im surprised the 2nd import was kept. Obviously they feel the 2nd import is more valuable to the team.

[Marty Clarke]

Sounds to me like the sponsorship deal fell through and that money had been allocated to pay Smith.Doesnt appear Smith has done anything wrong, its more of a case of poor management on the Pioneers behalf.No point spending money you dont have.....All SEABL clubs have there import quotas as far as i know so the best he could hope for is Big V,WA or QABL. Poor form by the coach to not ring the player personally.Makes recruitment in the diffcuilt because the club has lost some face.

[Marty Clarke]

Apparently Scotts Transport have been unable to honor there sponsorship due to current legal action so thats why Smith has been released.They have although signed Eric Bourdon from SA.Dont think we've heard the end of this.....

[catcountry]

Isma'il could miss the first 8 games due to visa problems. Could be a short term option for Geelong

[FreeThrow]

Apparently Scotts Transport have been unable to honor there sponsorship due to current legal action so thats why Smith has been released.They have although signed Eric Bourdon from SA.Dont think we've heard the end of this.....

Nothing to do with poor management, word was that Smith had been signed on big money and with Scotts recently unable to continue it was unfortunate. Can't see Smith being a short term fix as he apparently had massive problems getting visa approval last year. Missed quite a few early games for them. Also heard from teams in Adelaide that his pre-season form has been not great.

[patm]

Nothing to do with poor management ...

Usually the words spoken by those being refered to ;)
Especially on their first post

[Marty Clarke]

Dont spend what you havent got...They knew that Scotts have been in that situation for a long time.

[bambam33]

As expected, Nick Payne back home to the Bandits ...
http://www.bordermail.com.au/news/local/sport/basketball/payne-relief-favourite-son-back-to-help-bandits/1754151.aspx

[Marty Clarke]

Plot thickens in Mt Gambier:
http://www.hoops.com.au/forum/22368-mount-gambier-pioneers-coach-or-smith/

[cheapseats]

Nunawading sounding very tough for this coming season. Some big recruits makes them a very hard team to beat if they can get it together.

[Marty Clarke]

Chaz Briggs has arrived and trained with the Blues last night.In game shape and ready to play.

[Junior Coach]

We watched the Supercats in action against the Geelong Division 1 team last night and saw the new import J’Nathan Bullock although he didn't play, also their Captain (Cox), Reardon and Herbert didn't play.
It was good to see them play with a small win on the newly marked court.

[curious]

Article on Bullock here.
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2010/02/20/148021_geelong_sports.html

[catcountry]

We watched the Supercats in action against the Geelong Division 1 team last night and saw the new import J’Nathan Bullock although he didn't play, also their Captain (Cox), Reardon and Herbert didn't play.
It was good to see them play with a small win on the newly marked court. Reardon's o/s with the SEABL all star team in Qatar. DG still injured, Herbie has another little team called the 36ers at the moment. No IPL for J'Nate yet. Braith resting that back of his.

[rook]

Nunawading sounding very tough for this coming season. Some big recruits makes them a very hard team to beat if they can get it together.

Some big recruits indeed. Interesting to note, Todorov & Flynn not on the roster mentioned on SEABL website. Retired? Moved elsewhere?

[the voice #31]

Some big recruits indeed. Interesting to note, Todorov & Flynn not on the roster mentioned on SEABL website. Retired? Moved elsewhere?

Both still playing. Count on that.

[theFraudulentone]

so has anyone seen some of the teams training so far?

according to a media release the bandits trained sat and sun this weekend and had their full squad assembled for the first time...anyone heard any word on how that went?

2 weeks out from the start of the season, its kinda crept up! lookin forward to it though!

[A Higher Authority]

I heard the Gunners were having a hit out against Norths (WBL) - haven't heard any results though.

[Mama B]

Is the SEABL tipping competition happening again this year?

[ALLSTAR BABY]

Ballarat beat Mt Gambier @ Horsham in OT by 5. Drake Reed had 29pts & 18rebs.

[the voice #31]

Is the SEABL tipping competition happening again this year?

Not to far away apparently...

[Melb Wildcat]

Bendigo defeated Kilsyth on Saturday night in a practice game. Kind of a nothing game in a way as Cobras were missing a few players and looked like a lot of the players seemed to be relaxed through the game. Cobras didnt really have a PG without Shanahan but Matt Ohea did a lot of the ball carrying.

Cobras also played Dandy on Sunday but do not know the result.

Cobras play Ballarat next week in a practice game.

[Big Jim]

Dandy won. Good, tough game. Rangers played Geelong on saturday and won well.

[the voice #31]

Ballarat beat Mt Gambier @ Horsham in OT by 5. Drake Reed had 29pts & 18rebs.

Good numbers... Got any more info. Did Tipton play for Pioneers?

[the voice #31]

Bendigo defeated Kilsyth on Saturday night in a practice game. Kind of a nothing game in a way as Cobras were missing a few players and looked like a lot of the players seemed to be relaxed through the game. Cobras didnt really have a PG without Shanahan but Matt Ohea did a lot of the ball carrying.

Cobras also played Dandy on Sunday but do not know the result.

Cobras play Ballarat next week in a practice game.

What was McFarlin's form like?

[ALLSTAR BABY]

Bendigo defeated Kilsyth on Saturday night in a practice game. Kind of a nothing game in a way as Cobras were missing a few players and looked like a lot of the players seemed to be relaxed through the game. Cobras didnt really have a PG without Shanahan but Matt Ohea did a lot of the ball carrying.

Cobras also played Dandy on Sunday but do not know the result.

Cobras play Ballarat next week in a practice game.

Ballarat play Cobras Saturday night, Nunawading Sunday.

[Melb Wildcat]

McFarlin looks like he will be a good player. Has good size and with Tanner will give the Braves a good frontcourt. The intensity of the game wasnt very high so hard to say how he will go, but he definately looks like he will be a force once he gets used to the league. It seemed both teams were more than happy to just have a bit of a run round and experiment a bit. Pretty much what is expected of a practice match.

[Marty Clarke]

What was Geelongs new import like????

[cheapseats]

If McFarlin is as good as I reckon he might be I am on the Bendigo train this year. I think they will be a deep finals contender.

[imported_MinerS]

Ballarat beat Mt Gambier @ Horsham in OT by 5. Drake Reed had 29pts & 18rebs.

Miners have an almost completely new team. Jamal Brown, Adam McSwain, Nathan Cavanagh and Matt Johnston (development player) are the only players returning to the team.

New players include: Drake Reed (import), Daniel Joyce (last played at Gold Coast), Tariq Naqqash (ex Dragons / Pioneers), Ryan Barnes (ex College US), Jared Scoines (ex West Sydney Razorbacks dvt player) and Sam Borner (son of Ray).

Tuddy has returned as Assistant Coach to Guy.

Will be interesting to see how they go

[catcountry]

What was Geelongs new import like????He went OK in limited minutes MC. Built like the proverbial brick outhouse you certainly wouldn't push him over with those legs like tree trunks. Gets up and down OK. He had one nice dunk and has a nice 10 foot jumper, he got a couple of threes as well. Supercats good until the half but lack of depth (no Herbie or Reardo) hurt down the stretch. Should be OK once they gel a bit more and get the rest of the starters back.

[the voice #31]

Miners have an almost completely new team. Jamal Brown, Adam McSwain, Nathan Cavanagh and Matt Johnston (development player) are the only players returning to the team.

New players include: Drake Reed (import), Daniel Joyce (last played at Gold Coast), Tariq Naqqash (ex Dragons / Pioneers), Ryan Barnes (ex College US), Jared Scoines (ex West Sydney Razorbacks dvt player) and Sam Borner (son of Ray).

Tuddy has returned as Assistant Coach to Guy.

Will be interesting to see how they go

Ryan Barnes ex Melbourne youth League?

[outer east]

Whats happening with Shanahan, signed up to play in foot locker and heard he has a job in NSW? Would leave Kilsyth without an experience PG.

[Marty Clarke]

Speakimg to a SEABL coach last night and he said that Bullock suffered Pacific shrink on the way over 2-3 inches....

[imported_MinerS]

Ryan Barnes ex Melbourne youth League?

Yes I believe it is the same Ryan Barnes.

[the voice #31]

Former AIS centre Nathan Crombie joins Knox.

http://www.knoxbasketball.com.au/show_news_item.asp?news=331

[catcountry]

Speakimg to a SEABL coach last night and he said that Bullock suffered Pacific shrink on the way over 2-3 inches....Nope, as per profile 6'5" or 196

[Melb Wildcat]

In regard to Shanahan (not sure if its true or not or even a joke) but on Boti Nagy's write up it states he has been employed by Hawthorn Football Club. Couldnt be true could it? lol

Adelaide Now
"HAWTHORN Footy Club is employing much-travelled ex-NBL guard Matt Shanahan to teach some defensive footwork and techniques to its AFL squad.

That's a bit like getting Warrick Giddey to teach shooting style".

[bambam33]

True ...

It was on the back page of the Herald Sun a few weeks back.

[opalswatcher]

just a subcontractor doing half a dozen sessions thats it.

[the voice #31]

In regard to Shanahan (not sure if its true or not or even a joke) but on Boti Nagy's write up it states he has been employed by Hawthorn Football Club. Couldnt be true could it? lol

Adelaide Now
"HAWTHORN Footy Club is employing much-travelled ex-NBL guard Matt Shanahan to teach some defensive footwork and techniques to its AFL squad.

That's a bit like getting Warrick Giddey to teach shooting style".

Had a bit of a laugh at this one...

Your line says it all,

The one I used at the time was "It was like Brendan Fevola teaching responsible use of alcohol to teenagers"...

That got a giggle to...

[Melb Wildcat]

Some interesting observations from SEABL off-season transactions.

- Damien Ryan in the league for Sandy. Could be trying to get a NBL gig next season?

- Knox and Geelong have a few D league/youth players on their roster. Should mean that John Philip should be close to starting for Knox.

- They fail to list Joe Werner as a departure for Cobras lol.

- Thalo Green no longer with Brisbane. Could mean they chase an import

[Clips]

Media guide is released today (Friday).

[MLS]

SEABL Tipping 2010 (http://www.seabl.sportstipping.com.au/)

[Fred]

How's that Media Guide going.... LOL

[opalswatcher]

media guide right on time! hahaha

[ALLSTAR BABY]

YAY Media Guide up!

[Clips]

http://www.seabl.com.au/index.php?id=234
Media guide available online.

Gunners Changes

NEWCOMERS
Name
Daniel Jackson Wollongong (NBL)
Shane Brown Returning from season off
Andrew Murphy Returning from season off
ROOKIES
Name Club
Jamie Heaton ACT local comp
Ben White ACT Juniors
DEPARTED
Name
Brad Simpson Adelphi University (NCAA)
Steven Rudic Retired
Sam Bresnik de listed
Jon Holden de listed
Adam Dell’aquilla de listed
Gabriel Haynes de listed

[the voice #31]

Jon Holden de listed

What's the deal here?

Holden's not that bad a player to be cut surely? Plus couldn't they use all the height they can get?

[curious]

Article on the Chargers.
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2010/03/11/132881_sport-news.html

[Clips]

What's the deal here?

Holden's not that bad a player to be cut surely? Plus couldn't they use all the height they can get?
No I'm fairly sure he was taking the season off. I'm sure he wasn't cut.

[puzzle_12]

No I'm fairly sure he was taking the season off. I'm sure he wasn't cut.

He didnt get cut, he is having the year off travelling. He would be very useful for them this yr, a big loss!

[curious]

Good SEABL video previews here from a few SEABL Head Coaches.
http://www.seabl.com.au/index.php?id=207&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=1020&tx_ttnews[backPid]=52&cHash=b158f1c266

[Mama B]

Isma'il Muhammad and J'Nathan Bullock both cleared to play for Geelong Supercats in tonights opening game against the AIS.

[the voice #31]

The Kids upset my tips beating the Cats 92-89. Can anyone give a game report?

By the way Hobart's live stats SUCK!!!

Anyone report from there...

It's like footy season, getting excited... SEABL's back baby!!!

[puzzle_12]

The Kids upset my tips beating the Cats 92-89. Can anyone give a game report?

By the way Hobart's live stats SUCK!!!

Anyone report from there...

It's like footy season, getting excited... SEABL's back baby!!!

Pretty good game. Geelong started in a man and had 31 scored on them in the 1st quarter, and quickly changed to zone. AIS were shooting the lights out with Igor H and ALdridge the main men. Geelong got back into it with strong play by muhammed, which included a massive right handed dunk on Mitchell Creek. Muhammed is amazing, he just hangs in the air for so long. The 2nd half was tight all along, until Geelong really struggled in the last 2-3 minutes. A suspect charge call on Muhammed ended there night, and AIS knocked down their free throws to win it down the stretch. Cox's last secondshot wasnt close at all.

J'Nathan Bullock was OK, not very tall but built like a brick. He got bailed out alot of his drives, hence the high number of free throws. Will be a solid import! if he was 3 inches taller, he'd be a monster!

Geelong didnt go very deep, and the coach played the 5 on the court for long stretches. Will be tough for them to back up tomorrow night!

[Melb Wildcat]

Cobras by a point over Hobart!

[cheapseats]

Kilyths Tigers, sorry I mean Cobras pull off a big win first up beating Hobart down south. As expected the five recruits all dominated the time and stats, and thanks to a failed buzzer beater by Banovic took the points in game one. Can they now take down the Samless NW Tasmanian team ?

What happened to Geelong ? AIS were spoken about highly, but were Geelong taking a nap through game one ?

Tipping going great 0-2 LMAO

[curious]

Cobras will be without their 3 Tigers players.
Good luck against the Thunder.
Online review of Chargers / Cobras game.
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2010/03/13/133735_sport-news.html

[Old Hack]

Cobras will be without their 3 Tigers players.


Why were the ex-Tigers not playing the second game of the Tassie road trip?

Some interesting results first up and some very close games decided by just a basket or less. Does changing to the 40 minute game bring the competition closer.

Did Ballarat have players missing as they didn't looked to be too competitive against the Braves - surprising considering all the hype with getting Guy Molloy to Coach.

[curious]

Why were the ex-Tigers not playing the second game of the Tassie road trip?
They had to attend a compulsory Tigers end of season dinner I believe.
No attend, no pay!!

[the voice #31]

Yeah Tom Greer not in action last night either for the Spooks. What's the go with Melbourne? They couldn't have their dinner last week or even two weeks ago?? Dicks!!

Anyway checked out the Spooks and Raiders last night. Not a bad game. Both teams looking rusty, Knox more so than Nuna. Nuna looking to gel more than anything. Knox having an interupted pre season with the 4 guys out to Qatar. They'll be right though. Might take a couple of weeks though. So Lester started in normal fashion with a few massive dunks. If he had 14 points 12 were on dunks (or so it seemed). One massive alley oop from CJ on a break. CJ was good as always, Sean and Mick Hill were good as well.

For the Spooks, Shane McDonald was excellent all night. Don't think he missed on a triple. Scratchy performance from others. Leonard looked good in spots, so did Chris Cameron. And Paul Flynn did really well when he was on. Matt Hall looks to score in the right spots, needs to adjust to the officiating, and he'll be solid.

They hit a couple of big shots when they needed to - Leonard and Cameron. Todorov set up a couple of important baskets with great hustle plays too on D.

Dunno if they'll have Tom back for today. Could make the difference if he plays.

How's the tips for the weekend? I know mine are up the shit! (Stupid Tigers dinner). Anyone tip the Pioneers to win??

[Melb Wildcat]

Boxscore shows Cameron shot 5/20. and CJ 6/21 in that game. Ouch! lol.

Correct Tigers had their end of season dinner last night in Port Melb (I think)

[Clips]

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/13/01/65/98/66vjve2vMEe6/

Link for tonights game, Philippines vs Gunners.....

edit: Game should be live from 6pm, not 7 as advertised on live stats.

[GC Baller]

As I am sure a lot of people have been waiting for, can someone give us an insight into how Daniel Joyce is going at Ballarat? I want my beliefs to be vindicated

[fan since the old snakepit]

According to many experts including heal, gcdave and joycefan, soj is in the top two UP and comming guards TO play the game here so i just dont see what all this SHIT is about.

[curious]

Joyce played 30 mins and scored 10 pts.
3/7, 3F, 4 Asst, 3 T/O and 1 D/R.
Fairly underwhelming. The Miners got smashed Vs Bendigo.

In his 2nd game the Miners won Vs Mt Gambier.
Joyce, played 33 mins, for 5 pts.
2/7, 2 F, 6 Asst, 1 St, 2 T/O 1 O/B and 3 D/R.
Even more underwhelming.

[curious]

As I am sure a lot of people have been waiting for, can someone give us an insight into how Daniel Joyce is going at Ballarat? I want my beliefs to be vindicated
No need for vindication.
Look at SoJ's stats from the Waratah, playing for the Comets.
Terrible.

[curious]

Braves beat Geelong.

[curious]

Albury vs Ballarat O/T!!! Jamal 2 points.
Chargers beat the Mount by 9.

[curious]

Bandits win by 5 in O/T!!!

[upnorth]

Looks like Tariq may have fallen in love with his 3-ball a little. Jacked it up 15 times!

[bambam33]

Looks like Tariq may have fallen in love with his 3-ball a little. Jacked it up 15 times!

He has, but you shoulda seen his off-balance three to force OT!
Great win for the Bandits, Bright is a player - stats mob ripped him off tonight, his 19 points, 10 boards and 7 assists were more like 19, 13 and 10!

[Melb Wildcat]

How did the Lady Bandits go?

[bambam33]

Came back from 20 down to win by 5

[smittys07]

Came back from 20 down to win by 5

Just a wild night at Albury, ladies trailed 36-16 in the second quarter and then came out smoking for the second half ... looked like Sandy ran out of gas a little, Camino looked a little rusty and Nicole Hunt had just 4 points and 5 TOs I think.

And then the men trailed by 10 in the third qtr but there's no quit in this year's team. Bright, Briglia and Gabbidon all huge for Albury, Tariq's three to force OT was re-donk-ulous.

Oh, and Drake Reed's jumpshot is uglier than Shawn Marion's by a long, long way ;)

[Melb Wildcat]

Kilsyth Cobra's men and women teams both came from poor starts to win their games.

The Kilsyth women were led by Smith but she was very turnover prone in this game ---the stats showed she had 16 turnovers. However she was trying to create a lot of the time for her teammates and it also took a while for the lady cobras to gel.

Manou was in foul trouble early but she adds a toughness to the team that they have been lacking for a while. She will be a very good player this season.

For Knox Megan sinclair had a great game and got some good minutes. Probably the best game Ive seen her play.

Good to see the lady cobras look positve on court. Team harmony looks much better and it looks like the team really enjoyed the game tonight.

In the Mens Lockett dominated the game. He was the standout by far. He had a few fast break dunks off steals and also created a lot for teammates and got them into the game. Henderson played a 'tagging' defensive role n CJ all night and CJ didnt get many open looks. I love watching the CJ/Quincy match-up and even though Quincy didnt do much offensively he still kept CJ to a pretty average game.

Knox really seem to be missing Payne and Briglia. They offered a lot and Payne made CJ's job easier as he was a great shooter. Good to see both playing good at Albury.

Tim lang also did well after a pretty bad start. He and De really hit the boards hard tonight and he had the better of strong overall.

[curious]

Sandy win by 17
Kilsyth win by4
Ballarat win by 7
Hobart win by 10
Franga win by 2

[Melb Wildcat]

Dan Joyce ---40 mins 1/8fg 5pts 4t/o and 3 assists.

How the hell does he get 40mins and contribute so little?

[Skindog the Hawk]

Dan Joyce ---snipHow the hell does he get 40mins and contribute so little?

Hmmm...so many people have been asking that question for several years now... :confused:

SD.

[smittys07]

Franga win by 2

On a buzzer-beating 3 from Andrew Harms. Ouch for the Gers.
Need a win today or they're gonna be 0-3, which would be ridiculous with the line-up they have.

[Melb Wildcat]

Lady Cobras thump Hobart!

Kilsyth destroy a very disappointing Albury Bandits team.

[curious]

Braves smash Spectres by 28!!!
This Friday sees what could be the game of the week. Chargers Vs Braves.

[smittys07]

Random Ei Woodfy sighting, at an NBA game no less:

http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/23595/Loyal_fans_stand_behind_Kings_despite_114108_doubl e_overtime_loss_to_Bucks

[imported_MinerS]

Oh, and Drake Reed's jumpshot is uglier than Shawn Marion's by a long, long way ;)[/QUOTE]

Reed's jump shot can't be too bad - he knocked down 36 on Sunday against North West.

Not sure why everyone is on Joyce's back. He has been out of the game for 12 months and only arrived in town on season's eve.

Miners have not played with a full team yet. Can only improve.

According to Win TV Mr Goorjan is visiting town tomorrow to take training.

[the voice #31]

So I caught three games on the weekend. Started on friday night with Braves and S-Cats. Braves are legit from what i've seen. McFarlin's not the superstar the reputation comes with but man he plays hard and is a glass demon!! Luke Meyer is a great offensive threat and I reckon very good defensively. He made the Cats D - which has never been anything to write home about :), look silly. Bullock is wide and I caught my first look at Muhammad as well. I wish they'd use them more, they both look like they could be great players. Muhammad exploded at one of his teamates at half time - anyone know what that was about?

Thought Braves should have won by more, Cats were never really in it IMO.

Caught 3 quarts of Dandy v Frankston on Saturday. Dandy were really good I thought. i think their squad is pretty good and if they can pull a few upsets could be a suprise finals campaigner. The import is good. He finishes well and his back to the basket game is solid. Lucas Walker has a good all court game at will be very good at SEABL level. And Campbell is a definite upgrade on Godfrey. They were very stiff to lose by the sounds, harms with one for the ages on the horn.

Frankston definitely not as deep as last year and after Runchey went down early it left them very small. Briggs is not as good as Gruber IMO and he is the biggest omission from any line up in the L this year. Harms will have to be Ironman this year and if he goes down, so do the Blues.

Finally on to Sunday and Braves v Spooks. The wooping started at the end of the 2nd. Tanner started to take the game on late in the second. might have scored ten in a row for the Braves and combined with the Spooks inability to get on the glass either end. Started to build a sizeable lead. It continued after the break as it seemed the Spooks were keen to get back in the game the easy way - by the 3 ball. It was a shame they couldn't hit one. Combined with the Braves trap and it was curtains for the Spooks - no matter what they tried. Impressed with the Braves guards and again Luke Meyer again, along with Hogan. thought Hall tried hard along with Kennedy for the Spooks.

A full on weekend...

Won't be around this weekend so i'm looking for a few match reports guys.

By the way tipping is going shithouse - but it's a long season.

[the voice #31]

Not sure why everyone is on Joyce's back. He has been out of the game for 12 months and only arrived in town on season's eve.

He played in a practice match the week before!

Plus he's a chump... Everyone bagging him relates to old threads in the NBL page

And you can get 36 by means other than jump shots. I've seen it and it's probably the ugliest shot style i've seen... EVER! Whatever works for you though!!!:)

[Old Hack]

Finally on to Sunday and Braves v Spooks. The wooping started at the end of the 2nd. Tanner started to take the game on late in the second. might have scored ten in a row for the Braves and combined with the Spooks inability to get on the glass either end. Started to build a sizeable lead. It continued after the break as it seemed the Spooks were keen to get back in the game the easy way - by the 3 ball. It was a shame they couldn't hit one. Combined with the Braves trap and it was curtains for the Spooks - no matter what they tried. Impressed with the Braves guards and again Luke Meyer again, along with Hogan. thought Hall tried hard along with Kennedy for the Spooks.


Whats the go with the Spooks - get Knox by three in the first game then Greer plays the next two games gets 2/15 & 2/11 and the team can't get a decent score only in the 60's. They were 9/22 from the foul line against Brisbane and go down by 3 points.

Just looks like they are making up the numbers again - I thought they were building a stronger squad for this year.

Something just doesn't look right with this group - most were there last year so there should be an improvement you would think!

[Melb Wildcat]

Yeah if Joyce if Joyce's excuse is that he has been out of the game for a year, then why is he playing 38 mins a game?

Thats either an excuse or poor coaching.

[smittys07]

Reed's jump shot can't be too bad - he knocked down 36 on Sunday against North West.
Miners have not played with a full team yet. Can only improve.


Where did I say it was bad?
I didn't comment on its effectiveness, I just said it was an ugly looking shot. Yeeesh.

Who have they got to come in that hasn't played yet?

[curious]

Not sure why everyone is on Joyce's back. He has been out of the game for 12 months and only arrived in town on season's eve.
Not sure who told you Joyce hasn't played in 12 months.
Joyce himself tell you that?

I guess he 'forgot' that he stank it up in the Waratah last season playing for the Sydney Comets.
I would have thought that anyone should have been involved with their new team a lot earleir than on season's eve as well. Yet you wonder why he has this bad rep.

[Melb Wildcat]

Yeah I thought he played Waratah last season. If thats the case then he should be doing much better especially playing huge minutes so far for very little production.

9pts (32% fg) 4assists a game is not very good in 35mins a game.

[ALLSTAR BABY]

Yeah I thought he played Waratah last season. If thats the case then he should be doing much better especially playing huge minutes so far for very little production.

9pts (32% fg) 4assists a game is not very good in 35mins a game.

You blokes have no idea, the team has 7 new players and all are trying to find their feet. Doing this at practice is one thing, doing it in games is another. I assure to Daniel is dominating practice and is controlling the team very well. If we can finish the first month with a winning record it can be nothing but positive for the teams confidence for the rest of the season. In summary you guys are in no position to judge so keep ya mouth's shut.

[patm]

While the kid may be the innocent paying the price, it's good to see that parental interference in the process can come with an ongoing price. If it happened more often then maybe we could get this blight on the sport under control. And the standard and state of basketball would be the better for it.

[smittys07]

You blokes have no idea, the team has 7 new players and all are trying to find their feet. Doing this at practice is one thing, doing it in games is another. I assure to Daniel is dominating practice and is controlling the team very well. If we can finish the first month with a winning record it can be nothing but positive for the teams confidence for the rest of the season. In summary you guys are in no position to judge so keep ya mouth's shut.

Wow, a little angry there.
Just as an aside, Albury has 10 new players this year, what's your point?

[Mama B]

Jason Reardon has left the Geelong Supercats.
Press release up Supercats website.

http://www.supercats.com.au/content/view/665/1/

[ALLSTAR BABY]

Wow, a little angry there.
Just as an aside, Albury has 10 new players this year, what's your point?

not anger smittys07, just annoyed at ill informed knobs who know little about Daniel or what his role within the Ballarat team, and happy to sit behind an alias potting the bloke on his nightly stats. I suggest they contact the SEABL league office and request a copy of a game tape so they can actually make an informed decision/comment on his progress. Better still I will be more than happy to provide them with one of these tapes if they contact me.

[Melb Wildcat]

There must be a lot of 'ill informed knobs' then as even gC Blaze fans didnt think too much of him. Do you honestly think he would of made NBL if his dad wasnt the coach of the team?

As smitty said heaps of teams have lots of new players this season. Some teams have completely new starting 5's compared with last season. Great to hear Dan Joyce is dominating practice probably being matched up on some 16 year old kid.


Reardon will be a huge loss for the Supercats. He had a complete game and was probably one on the best players to not play NBL. Would of liked him to play out the season but that life.

[ALLSTAR BABY]

There must be a lot of 'ill informed knobs' then as even gC Blaze fans didnt think too much of him. Do you honestly think he would of made NBL if his dad wasnt the coach of the team?

As smitty said heaps of teams have lots of new players this season. Some teams have completely new starting 5's compared with last season. Great to hear Dan Joyce is dominating practice probably being matched up on some 16 year old kid.


Reardon will be a huge loss for the Supercats. He had a complete game and was probably one on the best players to not play NBL. Would of liked him to play out the season but that life.

Couldn't care less about his time at Gold Coast or how he got an NBL gig, my "ill informed" comment relates directly other comments to the current SEABL season and his stats and productivity from minutes played. Dan has a role, the team has a .500 record so far and playing that role perfectly as asked from coach Molloy.

[curious]

Just like the ill informed Ballarat supporter that said Joyce hadn't played basketball in over 12 months.

[Prodigal]

Just like the ill informed Ballarat supporter that said Joyce hadn't played basketball in over 12 months.


Well....to be fair, you could make a case for what he did in Waratah not actually being described as "playing basketball" ;)

[patm]

...just annoyed at ill informed knobs ...happy to sit behind an alias ...
I'd like a dollar for every time that one gets trotted out :rolleyes:

[curious]

Chargers is thriller over Braves.
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2010/03/27/136535_sport-news.html

[curious]

Blues 27 points down at 1/2 time!!!!

[Old Hack]

Sabres look like they were Spooked by Ghosts - up by 17 points with just over 4 1/2 minutes to play get run down thanks to Greer who poured in 12 points on 5/5 in the last 4 minutes after going 0/6 over the first three quarters.

MacDonald found his touch getting 21 points including 5/7 of 3 pointers.

Its an amazing game where one team can be looking certain winners through 3-1/2 quarters of consistent basketball then with nothing to lose their opponent goes 28-11 in the final term to steal a win it probably didn't deserve to get.

[curious]

Away team scoring 28 points in the last quarter will cost you a game if you score only 11.
Braves win, Rat win, Cats win and Blues smashed. Could be a long season in Franga with no Gruber.

[smittys07]

Rangers still winless after blowing 13-point lead with abt 7 mins to play, lose in OT to Ballarat.
Lucas Walker apparently posterised Jamal Brown but the reality is that if the Nongers lose at Nuna tomoz they will be 0-5. Ugh.

Geelong win without Reardon, Cox steps up in his absence.

Franga finally get some production from Chaz Briggs but get waxed by Knox.

Bendigo split the Tassie trip and were unlucky not to sweep really.

[smittys07]

Could be a long season in Franga with no Gruber.

I'm not prepared to write them off yet. Briggs took a while to get going when he was at Mildura 4 years ago - and when he did get going he was a beast - and it would seem it's the same deal here.
Give em another 2-3 weeks to get it together I think.

[curious]

Might have helped if Harms had scored.
3 shots and zip. He's never been shy on pulling the trigger.
Very strange.

[Junior Coach]

Great game last by the SuperCats, new recruit Bullock played a fantastic and exciting game. Ismail was fairly quiet. Capt Cox played a great game but fouled out late in the game.
Their effort in the second quarter reversed the lead after their poor first quarter.

[basketballer999]

saw Knox win last night CJ was on Fire had 24 in the opening quater finished with game high 45 game looked over after knox got out of the blocks in 1st and lead by around 30 for most of the game

[smittys07]

saw Knox win last night CJ was on Fire had 24 in the opening quater finished with game high 45 game looked over after knox got out of the blocks in 1st and lead by around 30 for most of the game

Allergic to the comma key are we? ;)

[bambam33]

LOL ... spoken like a true journo :)

[curious]

I'm not prepared to write them off yet.

A 32 point loss to Sandy won't help them.
Spectres over Rangers by 10.

[smittys07]

A 32 point loss to Sandy won't help them.
Spectres over Rangers by 10.

I just KNEW that would come up at some stage ;)
Way to respond to a thrashing ... and the Rangers have some issues of their own to deal with.

[patm]

With a bit of luck in both instances it might be a case of the chickens coming home to roost.

[Junior Coach]

Supercats game report

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2010/03/29/159111_geelong_sports.html

[Melb Wildcat]

Kilsyth Cobras sign Gardner Webb college returnee Auryn MacMillan.

[RedbackVenom]

Kilsyth Cobras sign Gardner Webb college returnee Auryn MacMillan.

MacMillan was always a near certaintly to return to his roots...will be interesting to see how he goes after a pretty disappointing senior college season.

[Melb Wildcat]

Cobras seem to get lucky with signing returning college players who are centres - Cameron, Lang and now MacMillan in the past few seasons.

Agree was a near certainty but Cobras will look god in May when he returns.

[curious]

Chargers beat Thunder.

[curious]

Interesting article here on the resignation of Thunder's coach.
http://www.theadvocate.com.au/news/local/sport/basketball/coach-thomas-pulls-the-pin-on-thunder/1793226.aspx

Plus an online article relating to the Chargres win over the Thunder yesterday.
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2010/04/06/138121_sport-news.html

[bambam33]

Bandits beat Mt Gambier 82-79 ..

Went the hard way about it by the looks of things though, up 19 with 5 mins left and won by 3!

[curious]

Chargers beat Spartans and Geelong smash Sandy by 31 !!!.
Dandy beat Knox and Kilsyth beat the Rat.

[catcountry]

Joey Wright and Aaron Fearne both looking on at the Arena tonight

[Junior Coach]

The Supercats won an exciting game over Sabres last night, 106-75
In the first five minutes the Supercats scored 21-6.
It was great to have Nathan Herbert back scoring 15 points for the first quarter.

Match report--http://www.supercats.com.au/content/view/667/1/

[curious]

Miners drop both this weekend.

D Joyce was 4/15 over the weekend.
Totalling 9 points.
Tonight he was 1/8 FGA and 1/7 3PA and 0/2 FTA.
People wonder why he gets so much shit.
What the hell was Molloy thinking.

[curious]

No Gibbo, no Spartans.
Spartans drop both this weekend, despite Cannan scoring 39 in a losing side tonight.

[fan since the old snakepit]

Miners drop both this weekend.

D Joyce was 4/15 over the weekend.
Totalling 9 points.
Tonight he was 1/8 FGA and 1/7 3PA and 0/2 FTA.
People wonder why he gets so much shit.
What the hell was Molloy thinking.

For a guy who is a poor shooter he likes the three ball. Every time I see stats like this I just cringe at the last second fluke he made to sink the Hawks in Wollongong the season before last.

[curious]

Franga lose another one.

[smittys07]

Franga lose another one.

I told you they were no good ;)

[Wizzel08]

Come on Smittys07 you love Bill and the boys, you cant jump off the bandwagon just yet, Briggs will get rolling soon. lol;)