2005/2006

[Leon #5]

When is the next season of FNBL going to kick off. The Donkeys are looking to go one better this year :)

[Skindog the Hawk]

Skindog's ConnoHawks will knock off Division 2 if we can jag some more Rigby-action ;)

[valar2006]

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[Stumps]

Who was relegated and promoted again?

[jesuc jexus]

i'm up for this again. but whos gonna run it?

[Lethal Vertical]

"Old Schoolers" will go with the Melbourne tradition and rebrand themselves with a new name....that is yet to be decided

[childlike]

online pharmacy - http://www.bestrxpills.com

[F-Bomb]

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WTF?

[jesuc jexus]

looks like lv's got a potential sponsor lined up there!

[Lethal Vertical]

ahaha...maybe I'll stick with the old schoolers name then :lol:

Except all my players have retired, Gaze, Reidy. haha

[Da Houndawg #55]

Skindog's ConnoHawks will knock off Division 2 if we can jag some more Rigby-action ;)

This is wrong on so many levels...

[T-Rich]

i'm up for this again. but whos gonna run it?

Anok has a point here. My situation hasn't changed really - I barely get time to read the Boards anymore, let alone try and run FNBL again.

Would be more than happy if someone else wanted to carry on the legacy...

[Skindog the Hawk]

i'm up for this again. but whos gonna run it?

Anok has a point here. My situation hasn't changed really - I barely get time to read the Boards anymore, let alone try and run FNBL again.

Would be more than happy if someone else wanted to carry on the legacy...

If someone (read: T-Rich) can send me what I need it shouldn't be too hard for the Dawg to do it...

SD.

[Kingshood]

[quote=anok]i'm up for this again. but whos gonna run it?

Anok has a point here. My situation hasn't changed really - I barely get time to read the Boards anymore, let alone try and run FNBL again.

Would be more than happy if someone else wanted to carry on the legacy...

If someone (read: T-Rich) can send me what I need it shouldn't be too hard for the Dawg to do it...

SD.[/quote:21wsm475]Well if you can't, I get the feeling anok, being the stats man that he is wouldn't mind giving it a shot. He's just to humble/indie/whatever to say it directly.(Or I could be wrong entirely)

[Cousin Of Topcat]

I'm up for this again. The Revolving Turnstiles shocked the FNBL world last year by being remarkably successful for an expansion team. 8)

[moonshadow]

any way of me getting a team?

[Madcat]

You can take over my FNBL license moonshadow.

I don’t think I will play next season.

[jesuc jexus]

bit late to hold a draft and whatnot now i'd suggest. is this the death of fnbl?

[T-Rich]

Skindog has expressed an interest in running things now. Now that I have returned from sunny Portugal, I will send the files that I used over to him.

Anok's right though, will need to get the draft kickstarted... over to you dawg!

[moonshadow]

You can take over my FNBL license moonshadow.

I don’t think I will play next season.

haha... if you're sure, then it sounds good.

somone wanna pm me rules or anything? - coz it doesnt seem to be a thread with rules/scoring

[jesuc jexus]

wait and see if its going, then we'll sort all that shiz. i think we needed to review some rules or something anyway? was madcat div II?

[Skindog the Hawk]

From what I remember Madcat was Div 2, however could all expressions of interest please come to this thread (http://www.ozhoopsboards.com/viewtopic.php?p=131103#131103)?

Deadline for teams is Friday 26/08 5pm EST, with draft action commencing 6pm EST.

Thanks,
SD.

[Stumps]

Deadline for teams is Friday 26/08 5pm EST, with draft action commencing 6pm EST.
Maybe that should be PRE-draft action ... it's a bit early to kick off at 6 pm AEST, considering out friends in the West will still be slaving away in the office. Perhaps 8.30 AEST for the draft, and we can roll it over to Monday if required?

[moonshadow]

Deadline for teams is Friday 26/08 5pm EST, with draft action commencing 6pm EST.
Maybe that should be PRE-draft action ... it's a bit early to kick off at 6 pm AEST, considering out friends in the West will still be slaving away in the office. Perhaps 8.30 AEST for the draft, and we can roll it over to Monday if required?

damn... i just realised

I have an exam friday arvo, and will be partying late into the night.

any chance of making Draft saturday? - or monday?

[Stanley]

i'd be keen to keep most of my team and not draft....

:wink:

[moonshadow]

Deadline for teams is Friday 26/08 5pm EST, with draft action commencing 6pm EST.
Maybe that should be PRE-draft action ... it's a bit early to kick off at 6 pm AEST, considering out friends in the West will still be slaving away in the office. Perhaps 8.30 AEST for the draft, and we can roll it over to Monday if required?

damn... i just realised

I have an exam friday arvo, and will be partying late into the night.

any chance of making Draft saturday? - or monday?

I was just thinking.
If you everyone else wants friday night, i could pretty easily come up with an ordered list (plus a couple of guidelines re: positions) if someone else (ie. Skindog - mod?) is willing to just do the draft for me - shouldnt be to difficult doing it off a list.
Obviously, i'd prefer the night changed, but this is also easy to sort out.

[Lethal Vertical]

I'd prefer 6 to 8:30. I can't do 8:30...well I could, but I'd have to leave after 20 minutes. But 6 is fine with me.

Lethal

[jesuc jexus]

sunday or monday make more sense, surely? i'm firmly against a friday draft

[gretchen]

So was I, until I realised I was kidding myself that I had a life.I definitely can't do Monday though. Probably not Sunday either.

[jesuc jexus]

maybe people should nominate some realistic draft time options. and how long are we going to need?

i guess i can do:
saturday morning/arvo
sunday evening
monday, tue, wed evening
i suppose i can do friday at a stretch, but 6pm sucks for working perthies

really not keen on submitting draft sheets as whoever has them has insight into who i rate and could potentially pinch a sleeper!

[Stumps]

6 pm is sucky for a lot of working East Coasters, never mind Perthies!

[moonshadow]

preferred times:

Saturday - all day
Sunday evening. (after 7 WST - 9 EST)
monday - 6 perth time. (Draft wont take over an hour, right?)
-any other evening next week - after 5 WST/ 7 EST.

[Cousin Of Topcat]

Sunday morning about 11am EST works for me. Or Friday afternoon late/Friday evening.

[Fly]

I can't make anything before 6.00pm Perth time on a weekday and have commitments Tues and Thurs nights.

I'd like a Saturday or Sunday draft no earlier than 9.00am Perth time if possible but could make a Mon, Wed, or Fri evening after 6.

[pilonv1]

Sunday evening seems to be a good time.

[Da Houndawg #55]

Friday/Saturday/Sunday nights 9 Adelaide time is supoib with me.

[Da Houndawg #55]

Sunday could be earlier in the evening though with me.

[Cousin Of Topcat]

Just set a time Skindog - if we want to play we'll work out a way to be there. :)

[moonshadow]

question number 2:

Who's deciding the positions?
Because looking at the teams from last season, people had Brannen, Dwight and Ronaldson at C... fair enough, but i wouldnt think Brannen or Ronaldson should be considered a C this season.

And then you've got guys like Ballinger, Forman, Knight etc. who would all be iffy. Not are really even F/C's, but will likely spend plenty of time at the 5 this season.

I'd just like to have some idea before the draft.

[Stumps]

Whatever it is, make it pretty late (9 pm?), because most of us seem to be night owls and the people in Perth need to get home.

[T-Rich]

question number 2:

Who's deciding the positions?
Because looking at the teams from last season, people had Brannen, Dwight and Ronaldson at C... fair enough, but i wouldnt think Brannen or Ronaldson should be considered a C this season.

And then you've got guys like Ballinger, Forman, Knight etc. who would all be iffy. Not are really even F/C's, but will likely spend plenty of time at the 5 this season.

I'd just like to have some idea before the draft.

Always a difficult one. I made the decision not to have split positions, mostly for simplicity's sake. The Dawg's call now though.

I am sure there will be a player list (with positions) that will clarify it all before the draft.

[pilonv1]

I think for simplicity players should be listed at the position they would play the most minutes at.

I'd be happy to help Skindog with the player positions. 8)

[Lethal Vertical]

Question: How long are we anticipating that the draft will take? This would make it a lot easier to determine times we are or aren't available.

At the end of the day I'm dubious anyway because I'm overloaded with uni work until Friday of next week, so I'm a dubious starter for any draft that is scheduled.

I'd therefore like to notify all that due to the nature of the competition (a good draft is essential for a good season) there is a possibility that the new schoolers will be placed in Voluntary Administration and not partake in the 2005/2006 Ozhoops FNBL Division 2 season. However, at this stage it is unknown. General Manager Lethal Vertical declined to comment when contacted. "More will be known shortly" was all he offered. Fans are hoping that this will not happen, as it was only this week that the 'Old Schoolers' were saved and a new license was given to continue the club under the name 'new schoolers'. Newly appointed League Chief Executive Skindog The Hawk said "It would be a sad occurence should we lose a quality participant in our league such as the new schoolers. They contribute so much and have a proud one season history in the competition.

Lethal

[The Glove]

Just set a time Skindog - if we want to play we'll work out a way to be there. :)

exactly.. If people want to get there, then they will!

Whatever it is, make it pretty late (9 pm?), because most of us seem to be night owls and the people in Perth need to get home.

What about those who aren't though ?

[jesuc jexus]

[quote="Cousin Of Topcat":ewrd4qyo]Just set a time Skindog - if we want to play we'll work out a way to be there. :)

exactly.. If people want to get there, then they will![/quote:ewrd4qyo]

so people are expected to just leave work to get to the draft?

[The Glove]

im sure that asensible time will be found :roll:

Not everyone is going to make it, thats a given, I think trying to aplease everyone is obviously not going to work. Just pick a time and get on with it. If you cant make it then thats unfortunate, but life and FNBL moves on. Some do take this a little more seriously than some.

Its all a game people....

I know that im pretty screwed and probably wont be able to make any real time or plans due to work, children, wife etc.. Im not over concerned that I may miss it.

[Stumps]

You know, there is still a whole week until the season starts ... we'd probably have time to do a draft on the Boards, as we've done previously. We could at least start it off, and then finish on MSN if required. It would make it more accessible for everybody that way.

[Leon #5]

Friday night is no good for me, but with a bit of notice i can make most other times

[Cousin Of Topcat]

You know, there is still a whole week until the season starts ... we'd probably have time to do a draft on the Boards, as we've done previously. We could at least start it off, and then finish on MSN if required. It would make it more accessible for everybody that way.

He's right you know. If Skindog could get the player positions set, league division lists, and draft order going we could start the damn f*cker tonight.

Just delete the old topics from last season, and away we go. We got last year's draft done in about a week.

[Stumps]

I've helped out with a suggested position list in this forum. Anything to get this thing started before the weekend.

[jesuc jexus]

fair enough. which teams make up the two divisions? lets get it going! :D

[Stumps]

Awesome to see that the guy who shouldn't even be in Div 1 is holding the draft up.

Also great to see that the thread where Skindog was asked to justify CoT's mysterious inclusion in Div 1 ahead of people like MacTavish who finished higher than him in Div 2 last season has disappeared. Let nobody question the great man! He answers to nobody! All dissent and discussion must be erased!

I'm waiting for the "special points" rule to be introduced, whereby Skindog, in addition to reserving the right to set the draft as inconveniently and non-negotiably as he likes, and bypassing the established promotion/demotion rules without explanation, has the right to allocate points to contestants in an arbitrary manner as he sees fit.

Heck, maybe my user won't even exist for long after making this post -- enjoy it while you can.

[Stanley]

Im still working in NZ this week so havent been paying much attention to all the posts in here, but how was CoT promoted?

Did those that finish higher in Div 2 quit the game for this season.

Either way MAKE YOUR PICK CoT!!!!!

[Stumps]

Skindog has refused to answer, either privately or publicly, how CoT was promoted, ahead of of people like MacTavish (who finished ahead of CoT in Div 2 last season and is playing again this season). In fact, the last thread calling for an explanation appears to have been deleted.

[Stanley]

If MacTavish is keen on playing i say he be put in Div 1.

Simple as that.

Unless there is a decent explanation as to why CoT is in Div 1.

[Stumps]

I concur.

[Stanley]

Forget MacTavish, sorry bud.

But why was Fly relegated to Div II, when he finished 2nd in Div 1.

I say he and CoT swap places, and this draft can continue.

[Stumps]

Hell, I say whichever of the three of them turns up first with a valid pick should get the spot. Fly and MacTavish both have a better claim to the position than CoT.

[jesuc jexus]

yeah, i mean, i hate to be hassling those who are going out of their way to run things, but its only fair that those who earned the position last season, by the rules we set, get promoted or remain in div 1.

[Stumps]

You can tell Skindog is a referee ... it's a cultural thing. The sweet sound of silence is all we get in response to any calls for transparency.

[jesuc jexus]

i got a pm consisting of the words "he's in - thats all there is to it"

edit: that was a joke, btw

[Stumps]

I had about 17 PMs, all of which were evading my question.

The only info I got is that apparently CoT didn't ask for the favour.

[gretchen]

boyCOTt.

[Cousin Of Topcat]

I'll say it again - what a bunch of sooky la-las. :roll:

No, I didn't ask to be put in at all. Yes, I would have been happy to go back to League 2 if it made you all sleep better at night, particularly Stumps who seems hellbent on dragging around his excess baggage until it falls on him at some point. :roll:

But the draft has started, i'm in, I play hard, I play to win. Isn't that what you want in your competitors, or would you like a few people around who give up mid-season like last year? No, MacTavish didn't give up, nor did Fly, but I got the absolute dirts with the attitudes of some players in League 2 last year and maybe Skindog thinks i'm worthy of playing with the Big Boys, or should that be Big Sooks?

:roll:

Just play the damn game.

[Lethal Vertical]

Like me? I didn't have an attitude, I think I just stopped playing. But didn't everyone? :lol:

And now I got no idea who to pick....

[jesuc jexus]

i guess every league needs a villianous prick :roll: :lol:

[Cousin Of Topcat]

And now I got no idea who to pick....

The good thing about being in Division 2 last year, and being a little behind Division 1 in the drafting process, was that you got to see what the other league thought a player's value was. Helped in deciding who to take enormously. :lol:

[Stumps]

No, I didn't ask to be put in at all. Yes, I would have been happy to go back to League 2 if it made you all sleep better at night, particularly Stumps who seems hellbent on dragging around his excess baggage until it falls on him at some point. :roll:
Somebody has to speak up and act as a conscience when people act corruptly. That may be inconvenient for people like you and Skindog who like to bend the rules and not have to answer to anybody about it, but I guess I'll just have to put up with the fatal insult of having somebody with your immense integrity and esteem roll his eyes at me.

But the draft has started, i'm in, I play hard, I play to win. Isn't that what you want in your competitors, or would you like a few people around who give up mid-season like last year? No, MacTavish didn't give up, nor did Fly, but I got the absolute dirts with the attitudes of some players in League 2 last year and maybe Skindog thinks i'm worthy of playing with the Big Boys, or should that be Big Sooks?
As far as I can see it, you beat a few guys who did jack all, and whinged a comical amount all season. No, that's not what I'd want in my competitors. I'd want people who respect the agreed rules and actually finished ahead of everybody who's in League 2.

:roll:

Just play the damn game.
Seriously, what a cock you are being. It's so typical for people like you to roll your eyes and pretend everybody else is being immature when you're the one who's shafting somebody else. You've been carrying on about everything to do with this game since the start of last season. I didn't see you "just playing the damn game" then. You'd be crying blue murder if somebody who finished behind you had been promoted ahead of you, so stop pretending anybody else is being petty about it -- that hypocrisy gets right up my nose.

[Skindog the Hawk]

Somebody has to speak up and act as a conscience when people act corruptly.

And yet you seem to vote Liberal...how ironic.

It's food for thought...
Skindog.

[Cousin Of Topcat]

Stumps, i'm not even going to bother to quote you, but go fuck yourself.

I didn't ask to move up, I didn't ask to 'bend the rules', how am I shafting someone else when I didn't request the move to Division One? :? I've been carrying on about this? Take a look in the mirror pal! Since you've been blessed with some kind of power to moderate one forum, you've developed a huge chip on your shoulder like you're some kind of conscience of the site or something. I mean, get the fuck over yourself! It's an internet forum ffs! You aren't God, you're just a sad case that has no fucking life and needs to be thumped by someone. Hard.

For whatever reason, i'm in Division 1. I appreciate it. Deal with it and stop being a big poof. And just for you - :roll:

[jesuc jexus]

this is getting good :lol:

(mod note - and this is where it stops. Take it to PM fellas)

[gretchen]

See, that's what I was talking about anok.

[Stumps]

And yet you seem to vote Liberal...how ironic.
Oh please, you wouldn't have the first idea how I vote. Not that it has anything to do with the appropriateness or otherwise of your behaviour.

If you've got any integrity whatsoever, you can end this entire debating by explaining yourself. I'm waiting.

[Stumps]

Stumps, i'm not even going to bother to quote you
I doubt you'd be able to figure out the tags.

but go (Extremely Naughty Word!) yourself.
Well, this is an intelligent start.

I didn't ask to move up, I didn't ask to 'bend the rules'
Funnily enough, I pointed that out before you did in order to be fair.

how am I shafting someone else when I didn't request the move to Division One? :?
MacTavish finished ahead of you and should have been promoted before you. You've shafted him whether you requested it or not. Skindog's shafted him even more.

I've been carrying on about this?
Dude, every second thread in the forum has been some ungrateful bitch by you to T-Rich about this game. Do you need me to provide you with a summary of links that show how your rampant sense of entitlement has pissed just about everybody off?

Take a look in the mirror pal! Since you've been blessed with some kind of power to moderate one forum, you've developed a huge chip on your shoulder like you're some kind of conscience of the site or something.
Wow, talk about non-sequitur. Sounds like you're the one with the chip on your shoulder about that. In case you hadn't noticed, any time somebody confuses me with a moderator, I'm the first to correct them. You don't need a green name to get uptight about unjust behaviour.

I mean, get the (Extremely Naughty Word!) over yourself! It's an internet forum ffs!
Oh, the irony just keeps getting richer and richer.

You aren't God
Of course, only God can call for rules to be applied -- everybody else should just shut the hell up and cop it sweet.

you're just a sad case that has no (Extremely Naughty Word!) life
As opposed to a person who identifies himself by his relation to a third rate court announcer. That's not sad at all.

and needs to be thumped by someone. Hard.
I guess that's the witless imbecile's solution to everything. Of course, I'm glad you said "someone" rather than yourself, because I'm hardly going to be afraid of a bespectacled fat prick who's straight out of the "Where's Wally" picture books.

For whatever reason, i'm in Division 1.
So it's too much for me to ask Skindog what that reason might be? Of course it is.

I appreciate it.
Oh well, case closed then.

Deal with it and stop being a big poof.
I didn't think they let school children run cinemas, even when they were handed down to them by daddy.

[Cousin Of Topcat]

Yeah that's what happened. Geezus. :roll:

[Stumps]

(mod edit - deleted)

[Cousin Of Topcat]

(mod edit - deleted)

[Skindog the Hawk]

Explanation - It was my stuff up. I've managed to put together FNBL and this draft and acquisition of 22 players within the last 3 days, whilst also trying to juggle work and my other various commitments (which also involved spending a majority of Thursday in the air over NSW & Victoria).

For what it's worth, I have spoken with all affected parties and they seem to be happy with the final resolution of the issue.

As such, things will stay as is. There will 10 teams in Division 1, and 12 teams in Division 2.

There will be a continuation of the current drafting system until 8pm EST tomorrow (Sunday) night, at which time we will go into MSN drafting, with 90 second headways. All participants are aware of this, and as such if they are not able to participate they have been made aware of the alternatives (read: they can nominate a proxy or myself to draft on their behalf).

CoT and Stumps, shut the fuck up about the system and who was promoted/demoted by accident. I'm the commish, I've made the ruling, and funnily enough, I haven't had too much problems with it. Stumps, if you're not happy with it, then give MacTavish your team and he can be in Div 1.

Thankyou to everyone who has expressed their confidence in the way I am running FNBL. I appreciate your support and I look forward to the upcoming season.

Skindog
FNBL Commish.

PS - Any further sniping about the system will result in deletion of posts and possible loss of draft picks - i.e. you will be relegated to the bottom of the round and/or lose a draft pick. I don't want to do that, but if it's the only way to stop this crap then that's the way it will run.

[Stumps]

And yet you seem to vote Liberal...how ironic.
While we're on the topic of personal politics (one I didn't start, you'll note) thank you for showing us above how it's done in Labor circles (and how to bypass the swear filter, which I guess is a mod only privilege).