Division 2 Draft Outcome & Discussion

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Round 1
1 Mike's Warriors - Chris Anstey
2 Paris Reds - Jason Smith
3 SOLAT - Nick Horvath
4 The Stone Cold Stonecutting Kings - Rolan Roberts
5 New Schoolers - John Rillie
6 The Invincibles - Larry Abney
7 Funky Nah Nahs - Dusty Rychart
8. Frezzer's Team Inactive - Chris Burgess
9 Skindog's ConnoHawks - Glen Saville
10 O.C.C. - Casey Calvary
11 Hellcat's Ledges - Brett Maher
12 Houndawg 55 - Darnell Mee

Round 2
13 Houndawg 55 - Dave Thomas
14 Hellcat's Ledges - Martin Cattalini
15 O.C.C. - David Bailey
16 Skindog's ConnoHawks - Bobby Brannen
17 Frezzer's Team Inactive - CJ Bruton
18 Funky Nah Nahs - Rashad Tucker
19 The Invincibles - Paul Rogers
20 New Schoolers - Brad Newley
21 The Stone Cold Stonecutting Kings - Lanard Copeland
22 SOLAT - Peter Crawford
23 Paris Reds - Mark Bradtke
24 Mike's Warriors - Derek Rucker

Round 3
25 Mike's Warriors - Cortez Groves
26 Paris Reds - Willie Farley
27 SOLAT - Luke Kendall
28 The Stone Cold Stonecutting Kings - David Stiff
29 New Schoolers - Sam MacKinnon
30 The Invincibles - Stephen Black
31 Funky Nah Nahs - James Harvey
32 Frezzer's Team Inactive - Shawn Redhage
33 Skindog's ConnoHawks - Ben Melmeth
34 O.C.C. - Adam Ballinger
35 Hellcat's Ledges - Ben Pepper
36 Houndawg 55 - Matthew Burston

Round 4
37 Houndawg 55 - Melvin Thomas
38 Hellcat's Ledges - Matt Campbell
39 O.C.C. - Aaron Olsen
40 Skindog's ConnoHawks - Steve Markovic
41 Frezzer's Team Inactive - Stephen Hoare
42 Funky Nah Nahs - Russell Hinder
43 The Invincibles - Ben Knight
44 New Schoolers - Geordie Cullen
45 The Stone Cold Stonecutting Kings - Jermaine Blackburn
46 SOLAT - Odell Bradley
47 Paris Reds - Oscar Forman
48 Mike's Warriors - Dillon Boucher

Round 5
49 Mike's Warriors - Rich Melzer
50 Paris Reds - Tony Ronaldson
51 SOLAT - Mark Worthington
52 The Stone Cold Stonecutting Kings - Luke Martin
53 New Schoolers - Andrew Rice
54 The Invincibles - Darryl MacDonald
55 Funky Nah Nahs - Brad Davidson
56 Frezzer's Team Inactive - Mike Helms
57 Skindog's ConnoHawks - Ben Castle
58 O.C.C. - Aaron Trahair
59 Hellcat's Ledges - Scott McGregor
60 Houndawg 55 - Jacob Holmes

Round 6
61 Houndawg 55 - Nathan Crosswell
62 Hellcat's Ledges - David Cooper
63 O.C.C. - Kelvin Robertson
64 Skindog's ConnoHawks - Brant Bailey
65 Frezzer's Team Inactive - Damon Thornton
66 Funky Nah Nahs - Adrian Majstrovich
67 The Invincibles - Tony Rampton
68 New Schoolers - Darryl Corletto
69 The Stone Cold Stonecutting Kings -
70 SOLAT - Lindsay Tait
71 Paris Reds - Anthony Stewart
72 Mike's Warriors - Robert Rose

Round 7
73 Mike's Warriors - Liam Rush
74 Paris Reds - Gary Boodnikoff
75 SOLAT - Matt Shanahan
76 The Stone Cold Stonecutting Kings - Cameron Rigby
77 New Schoolers - Neil Mottram
78 The Invincibles - Aaron Grabau
79 Funky Nah Nahs - Damon Lowery
80 Frezzer's Team Inactive - Brad Hill
81 Skindog's ConnoHawks - Brad Sheridan
82 O.C.C. - Troy Pilon
83 Hellcat's Ledges - Mark Nash
84 Houndawg 55 - Cameron Tragardh

Round 8
85 Houndawg 55 - Rhys Carter
86 Hellcat's Ledges - Mick Hill
87 O.C.C. - Paul Henare
88 Skindog's ConnoHawks - Clint Reed
89 Frezzer's Team Inactive - Brad Williamson
90 Funky Nah Nahs - Brett Wheeler
91 The Invincibles - Larry Davidson
92 New Schoolers - Braith Cox
93 The Stone Cold Stonecutting Kings - Jason Eversteyn
94 SOLAT - Cameron Tovey
95 Paris Reds - Paul Rees
96 Mike's Warriors - Kane Oakley

Round 9
97 Mike's Warriors - Matt Smith
98 Paris Reds - Mike Vukona
99 SOLAT - Greg Vanderjagt
100 The Stone Cold Stonecutting Kings - Dave Barlow
101 New Schoolers - Tommy Greer
102 The Invincibles - Mitch Selwood
103 Funky Nah Nahs - Adam Caporn
104 Frezzer's Team Inactive - Jeff Dowdell
105 Skindog's ConnoHawks - John Phillip
106 O.C.C. - Tim Behrendorff
107 Hellcat's Ledges - Josh Morgan
108 Houndawg 55 - Miles Pearce

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SOLAT
PG: Luke Kendall
SG: Peter Crawford
SF: Mark Worthington
PF: Odell Bradley
CC:Nick Horvath
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pg: Lindsay Tait
sg: Matt Shanahan
sf: Cameron Tovey
cc: Greg Vanderjagt

I'm likeing my team, though am not sure what Worthingtons role and minutes will be like at Sydney.

Am hoping Horvath stays healthy because big bad Greg Vanderjagt aint scaring anyone in the post.

Here's hoping Odell Bradley is the second coming of Brian Wethers NOT Chris Brown!!!

[Stanley]

Can SJ be relegated to Div 38 before the season starts.

That team is WOEFUL

[Cousin Of Topcat]

Copeland in round 2.... hahaha. :lol:

He went in round 7 in D1. :shock:

[moonshadow]

Teams:

Warriors
Anstey
Boucher
Melzer
Groves
Rucker
---
M. Smith
Rush
Oakley
Rose


Paris Reds
Bradtke
Forman
Ronaldson
J. Smith
Farley
---
Rees
Boodnikoff
Vukona
Stewart


SOLAT
Horvath
Bradley
Worthington
Crawford
Kendall
---
Vanderjagt
Tait
Shanahan
Tovey


Stone Cold
Roberts
Stiff
Blackburn
Copeland
Martin
---
Eversteyn
Egan
Rigby
Barlow


New School
Rice
Cullen
Mackinnon
Rillie
Newley
---
Mottram
Greer
Corletto
Cox


Invincibles
Rogers
Abney
Knight
Black
McDonald
---
Rampton
L. Davidson
Selwood
Grabau


Funky Nahnahs
Hinder
Rychart
Majstrovich
Harvey
Tucker
---
Wheeler
B. Davidson
Lowery
Caporn


Scatmen
Burgess
Redhage
Hoare
Bruton
Helms
---
Thornton
Dowdell
Williamson
B. Hill


Skindog's
Melmeth
Saville
Brannen
Markovic
Castle
---
B. Bailey
Sheridan
Reed
Philip


O.C.C
Calvary
Ballinger
Pilon
Olsen
D. Bailey
---
Behrendorff
Trahair
Robertson
Henare


Hellcatt
Pepper
Cattalini
McGregor
Maher
Campbell
---
Cooper
Nash
Morgan
M. Hill


Houndawg
Burston
D. Thomas
M. Thomas
Mee
Crosswell
---
Pearce
Holmes
Tragardh
R. Carter


correct?

[moonshadow]

Im happy with my team. Looks good all across the board, as long as Bradtke doesnt get injured and Forman gets enough court time... Assists is gonna hurt me.

Paris Reds:

Bradtke
Forman
Ronaldson
J. Smith
Farley
---
Rees
Boodnikoff
Vukona
Stewart

[giantfan]

Warriors

Anstey
Boucher
Melzer
Groves
Rucker
---
M. Smith
Rush
Oakley
Rose

happy with my team. cant believe i got Rose so late.

[Lethal Vertical]

Teams:






New School
Rice
Cullen
Mackinnon
Rillie
Newley
---
Mottram
Greer
Corletto
Cox




Skindog, what are you doing with my team?

I asked for either Eversteyn, Smith, Pearce or Behrendoff for my final pick. This is a copy of the word doco I sent:


Pick 92:

Braith cox
Tommy Greer

And for my final selection
1. Jason Eversteyn
2. Matt Smith
3. Miles PEarce
4. Behrendoff

I specifically did this so I'd get a centre with my last pick, I just wanted Cox OR Greer whoever was available....but I ended up with both. Pearce and Behrendoff both ended up getting drafted after my final pick, and I end up with One Centre.

I gotta say this is unfair.

Lethal

[Skindog the Hawk]

Can you all please post team lists in this thread (http://www.ozhoopsboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=4566) please, for record-keeping.

Thanks,
Skindog.

[Lethal Vertical]

Skindog, you're a good bloke, and you've done a great job so far with the FNBL but you made a mistake with my selection, the instructions were pretty clear cut. I think the fairest scenario would be if I get Miles Pearce.

Lethal

[T-Rich]

Why don't you just pick Pearce off the unrestricted free agent list (which is where all non-draftees go).

It won't affect your waiver wire position.


EDIT: I didn't realise that the Houndawg took him with the last pick. To be fair to Skinner, it's easy to see why he interpreted your PM the way he did. Is Pearce that much better than the other undrafted centres?

[moonshadow]

Why don't you just pick Pearce off the unrestricted free agent list (which is where all non-draftees go).

It won't affect your waiver wire position.

Pearce was drafted

[Lethal Vertical]

Because he was drafted by another team, below the pick from which I instructed Skindog to select him for me.

Lethal

[T-Rich]

See above edit

[Lethal Vertical]

EDIT: I didn't realise that the Houndawg took him with the last pick. To be fair to Skinner, it's easy to see why he interpreted your PM the way he did. Is Pearce that much better than the other undrafted centres?

I'll have to have a look...

But I disagree, the instructions were clear cut. Pick 92: two names.....then "for my final selection" with 4 numbered dot points. Obviously I'm biased, but it seems like those instructions are pretty obvious to me.

Lethal

[jesuc jexus]

could easily be interpreted both ways i reckon

[Lethal Vertical]

Oh well, lets disagree on that but we're happy now because Skindog changed a rule on Tragardh so that Hounddawg was happy to do a trade for Pearce/Greer, which is what I wanted in the draft, and everyone's happy. Good on you Skindog, for approving a fair solution so that no one misses out on the players they want :) . Oh and Dawg for suggesting it :P , and me for hounding Skindog about it hahahaha.

I gotta say though, on paper my team doesn't look as good as I'd hoped. You never know, Corletto Motts and Newley, because of their age or team situation, should all be in for big improvements stats wise on last season, thats what I hoped for when I Picked them. Took the risk, lets play the game.

Lethal

[The Glove]

Ive got Motts..

Fro ma Tigers fan LV, how is he shaping up for this season.

BTW, I'll just half the expectations of everything you say due to your outlandish bias :P

[Doctor E]

Hellcat's team is looking very strong. That team is my preseason prediction for the Div 2 title.

[jesuc jexus]

motts will start glove, but he'll be splitting time at the 4 with stiff and hoare. he'll probably get a few minutes at the 5 too. i dont reckon he'll score a lot, but his fg% should be good and his rebs/blocks useful.

[The Glove]

Ta pal..

Ho long will he last though before he breaks down :P j/k

[Lethal Vertical]

Yep, he is favourite to start at the 4 spot. So, compared to last season where he got minimal minutes, he's shaping up well. I'd expect him to get around 20-25 minutes a game. Stats wise, he's a 61% FG shooter over his career, so he'll help you lots there. His FT% is shocking. Doesn't shoot threes. I'd expect him to grab a heap of rebounds, probably around 6 a game, to go with 8 or 9 points, 1 assists and a block.

Lethal

[MacTavish]

I want to know how stringent this league will be in regards to positions especially considering we have lost a player due to having 12 teams in the league.
The league is very guard top heavy so the rule of having 2 guards, 2 forwards and a centre in your 5 is virtually impossible to enforce week after week with byes and the likes.
Most NBL teams run with a 3 guard lineup, so why can't we, especially since our roster has been reduced.

I was unaware we were only drafting 9 rounds until midway thru the draft and also unaware that multi positional players were being typecast into a main position. I had based my team list on the team rosters listed on NBL.coma
Rashad Tucker is a prime example. NBL website have him as a G/F and I had originally planned to play Rashad Tucker as predominantly a SF but he is listed as a G on Skindogs list, so that has screwed up my roster as I now have 5 guards with only 1 F listed on the FA's list.

Clarification on this would be appreciated.

[Lethal Vertical]

For Tigers Thomas is apparently going to be playing G with Tucker F

[Southern Joe]

Can SJ be relegated to Div 38 before the season starts.

That team is WOEFUL


... Thats the problem when life outside of OzHoops takes over .


I was all prepared at 5 pm to come back at about 8 .... but things went awry from there ... & I ended up with an early night .

[Stumps]

I want to know how stringent this league will be in regards to positions especially considering we have lost a player due to having 12 teams in the league.
The league is very guard top heavy so the rule of having 2 guards, 2 forwards and a centre in your 5 is virtually impossible to enforce week after week with byes and the likes.
Actually, only two of your eight active players need to be forwards.

Most NBL teams run with a 3 guard lineup, so why can't we, especially since our roster has been reduced.
You can, as long as you have two forwards in your eight, which all NBL teams would have.

Rashad Tucker is a prime example. NBL website have him as a G/F and I had originally planned to play Rashad Tucker as predominantly a SF but he is listed as a G on Skindogs list, so that has screwed up my roster as I now have 5 guards with only 1 F listed on the FA's list.
You played this game last season didn't you? :?

[Stumps]

For Tigers Thomas is apparently going to be playing G with Tucker F
This specific situation was referred to and explained at the start of the official position list.

[MacTavish]

For Tigers Thomas is apparently going to be playing G with Tucker F
This specific situation was referred to and explained at the start of the official position list.

I was not aware of the official positions list until about round 8 of the draft. I had made up my own from the NBL.com rosters and was working off of that.

[MacTavish]

Rashad Tucker is a prime example. NBL website have him as a G/F and I had originally planned to play Rashad Tucker as predominantly a SF but he is listed as a G on Skindogs list, so that has screwed up my roster as I now have 5 guards with only 1 F listed on the FA's list.
You played this game last season didn't you? :?

Yes and Matt Campbell and Tucker who were both in my team regualrly interchanged positions, but this year new commisioner etc etc......

[Stumps]

I was not aware of the official positions list until about round 8 of the draft. I had made up my own from the NBL.com rosters and was working off of that.
Well, it's been a sticky in this forum since 25 August ... :)

[MacTavish]

I was not aware of the official positions list until about round 8 of the draft. I had made up my own from the NBL.com rosters and was working off of that.
Well, it's been a sticky in this forum since 25 August ... :)

I am aware of that now, but considering I went out of town for work on Thursday and Saturday and worked all day Friday and Sunday I didn't have a great deal of time to go searching amongst the 15 million stickys in that thread. :P

[gretchen]

There is an official positions list?
I used the phone book.

[Stumps]

I am aware of that now, but considering I went out of town for work on Thursday and Saturday and worked all day Friday and Sunday I didn't have a great deal of time to go searching amongst the 15 million stickys in that thread. :P
No wonder COT stole your place in Div 1 :wink:

[The Glove]

I was not aware of the official positions list until about round 8 of the draft. I had made up my own from the NBL.com rosters and was working off of that.
Well, it's been a sticky in this forum since 25 August ... :)

I am aware of that now, but considering I went out of town for work on Thursday and Saturday and worked all day Friday and Sunday I didn't have a great deal of time to go searching amongst the 15 million stickys in that thread. :P

Mac, how dare you have a life and work outside this place..

That'll teach you for not creating a spreadsheet :P

[Stumps]

I wouldn't complain, Glove, somebody misappropriated the results of that spreadsheet to make some of your better picks :?

[The Glove]

I wouldn't complain, Glove, somebody misappropriated the results of that spreadsheet to make some of your better picks :?

:? If you took that as complaining, then I would hate to see what happens If I went off for some reaon..

I didnt care who I got, as long I was there

[Stumps]

Psst, Glove, you actually weren't there :wink:

I just wonder what the obsession with other people's spreadsheets is.

[The Glove]

Mine... nothing , just having a dig at some people's seriousness in all of this, thats all :P

[Stumps]

Don't assume that fun and "seriousness" are mutually exclusive.

[Stanley]

Play to win, not just to make up the numbers.

[MacTavish]

I am aware of that now, but considering I went out of town for work on Thursday and Saturday and worked all day Friday and Sunday I didn't have a great deal of time to go searching amongst the 15 million stickys in that thread. :P
No wonder COT stole your place in Div 1 :wink:

I only found out about that today too. I'm very fucking shirty indeed :evil:

[Stumps]

Gee, that's funny -- according to Skindog, you were absolutely fine with it.

[The Glove]

Play to win, not just to make up the numbers.

play to enjoy being a part of the action

[Stumps]

So how are you a part of it without actually doing some stuff to get involved?

[The Glove]

How..

I did what I could, I PM SD regualry with lists and players I was looking at to pick when my time arrived. I didnt realise that seeing I was unable to make the msn chat thingi last night, that I had upset the masses..

[Stumps]

You haven't upset anybody. Nobody's knocking you for being unavailable. Heck, I was actually lobbying Skindog for days to make it easier for people in your position to get more involved. I'm just confused as to why that would translate into your having a dig at people who are taking it more seriously than yourself because that's what makes it more fun for them.

[The Glove]

You haven't upset anybody. Nobody's knocking you for being unavailable. Heck, I was actually lobbying Skindog for days to make it easier for people in your position to get more involved. I'm just confused as to why that would translate into your having a dig at people who are taking it more seriously than yourself because that's what makes it more fun for them.

Arhh Ok

Im a little confused by some people's Win at all costs attitude to games like this. But as you said, if that makes it more fun for them, then Good on 'em. Obviously I take some things a little differently..

If it was a cricket Fantasy league then... That would be a different story :P

[Stumps]

Im a little confused by some people's Win at all costs attitude to games like this. But as you said, if that makes it more fun for them, then Good on 'em. Obviously I take some things a little differently..
Don't confuse "try your best" with "win at all costs". I won't be the slightest bit upset if the dice don't fall my way and I come dead last. The enjoyment was in the effort.

[MacTavish]

Gee, that's funny -- according to Skindog, you were absolutely fine with it.

Skindog would make a good Liberal politician then :lol:

[Stumps]

Yeah, I found his little speculative snipe at my politics in one of the other threads to be particularly ironic when I saw the "I am the beloved leader, everybody has been congratulating me on my decisions, any dissent will be punished" post which came after it.

[gretchen]

I wonder if Div2's live draft was as fun as ours.
They didn't have Andrew, so I doubt it.

[Stumps]

Yeah, there was no celebrity factor.

[The Glove]

Andrew ?!?

[gretchen]

Don't even think about it G-love, he's mine.

[Skindog the Hawk]

Yeah, I found his little speculative snipe at my politics in one of the other threads to be particularly ironic when I saw the "I am the beloved leader, everybody has been congratulating me on my decisions, any dissent will be punished" post which came after it.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat? I can't be left-wing and dictatorial at the same time?!?? Who died and gave John Howard the mortgage on those rights?!??

SD.

[The Glove]

Don't even think about it G-love, he's mine.

sorry, I shalt not speakith his name again .. (whoever the hell he is.... )

[Stumps]

I can't be left-wing and dictatorial at the same time?!??
No, I absolutely agree that you are both of the above :wink:

[pilonv1]

Yeah, there was no celebrity factor.

I'd argue Skindog is a bigger celebrity.

[Stumps]

True, there was his high-profile lucrative stint as a statistician on FOX.

[Cousin Of Topcat]

I am aware of that now, but considering I went out of town for work on Thursday and Saturday and worked all day Friday and Sunday I didn't have a great deal of time to go searching amongst the 15 million stickys in that thread. :P
No wonder COT stole your place in Div 1 :wink:

I didn't steal it. It fell of the back of a truck. :lol:

[Stumps]

"Matt" the bookmaker offered it to him in exchange for weather reports and information on his team's lineup :wink:

[Skindog the Hawk]

True, there was his high-profile lucrative stint as a statistician on FOX.

Soon to be usurped by my stint as a freelance journo. ;) 8)

SD.